On Sunday 9. February 2014 12.14.14 anatoly techtonik wrote: > Can somebody make Wiki send mails from some list address more suitable > for discussions?
You can't argue with the wiki? ;-) But regarding the change I made... [...] > > The "PythonEditors" page has been changed by PaulBoddie: > > https://wiki.python.org/moin/PythonEditors?action=diff&rev1=557&rev2=558 > > > > Comment: > > Added ACL. > > Why? Because I'm fed up of having to revert wiki pages all the time. Some people may subscribe to the idea that things should be super-easy for random people on the Internet to go in and make their oh-so-vital contribution to shared resources like the Python Wiki, because it's otherwise "setting a high barrier", "inconvenient for quick changes" or just being "elitist", but when it just means that people go in and vandalise it with their stupid link spamming, I'd much rather raise the barrier so that it's more likely that only people motivated enough to sign up and to actually demonstrate competence and benign intent get to edit those resources. > > + #acl TrustedEditorsGroup:read,write,delete,revert All:read > > + > > > > If you have anything to contribute -- e.g. configurations for editors, > > new editors, or opinion -- don't hesitate to edit or create pages. > > Isn't it contradicting with ACL? Not really. Random spammers don't have anything to contribute, and short of introducing other measures (which exist but don't seem to be palatable to the admins, at least as far as I know), I don't think it's much to ask people to demonstrate that they are sincere about making genuine contributions. There are people who send mails to me personally to edit pages without ACLs, so it's no hardship for people to do what you managed to do and to work your way up into the trusted editors group. Currently, I'm setting ACLs only on the most spammed pages after reverting them for the nth time. Again, we could add other measures, but there seems to be a resistance to do so. I think admin time and resources are limited (and I've been waiting for months for the go-ahead on something else that involves the python.org infrastructure, although I'm quite prepared to wait), and so we just have to make the best out of what we have. But that doesn't mean asking more from me and others who de-spam the wiki just to make everybody else's lives, including those of random spammers, easier. Paul _______________________________________________ pydotorg-www mailing list pydotorg-www@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pydotorg-www
