Ian Mallett wrote:
On Dec 5, 2007 4:03 PM, Greg Ewing <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote:

    Actually, it does -- a photon is an example of an object
    with no mass. Such an object always travels at the speed
    of light -- it doesn't even need a push to get it going.
It's fundamentally incapable of standing still.
Heh heh.  Try hitting that with a paddle.

    While it has no mass, it does have both energy and
    momentum, both of which are proportional to its frequency.

Momentum is defined as mass*velocity. If mass is zero, how does a photon have momentum?
When a physicists say that a photon has zero mass, what they generally mean is that photons have zero /rest mass/ (a rather hypothetical notion since a photon can't be at rest). A photon that is moving (the only kind of photon there is) has a mass of *h/c**?*. Since particles have ever increasing mass as their velocity increases, approaching infinity as velocity approaches *c*. You can loosely imagine a photon as having it's rest mass multiplied by infinity, which would be m = 0*?, which doesn't help us much. The actual equations are:

Energy of a photon is inversely proportional to wavelength* **?*, thats: *E = hc/?*, where *h* is Planck's constant We also have *E = mc^2*, so dividing both sides by *c^2*, we get mass: *m = h/c**?* Momentum is *p = mv = hv/**c**? = h/****? *(because *v=c* since it is a photon)

    These are conserved in any collision, so when it
    bounces off a wall, the wall gains some momentum, just
    as it would if a massive particle with the same
    momentum bounced off it. And if the wall starts to
    move as a result, then it has also gained some energy,
    which must have come from the photon, so the reflected
    photon must be red-shifted slightly (longer wavelength
= lower frequency = less energy). All this is true, but /how/ exactly does a massless particle have momentum?

    --
    Greg

Ian

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