Hey Stu, 

I've started to update the docs a bit to illustrate the different 
libraries. You can have a look here:
http://pyglet-test.readthedocs.io/en/latest/internal/virtualenv.html

On Monday, August 14, 2017 at 9:12:46 AM UTC+9, Stu.Axon wrote:
>
> Probably a bit late, but in case anyone finds this in future:
>
> venv is python3, while virtualenv is python2 (and sometimes 3), it can get 
> confusing.
>
> On Saturday, May 13, 2017 at 5:35:19 PM UTC+1, Bruce Smith wrote:
>>
>> Hi Rob,
>>
>> Thanks! Your commands did not *quite* work, but they came close enough 
>> that I found the motivation to do the much-reduced "incremental googling" 
>> needed to make them work.
>>
>> I'm on a Mac (close enough to linux) and normally use tcsh (for this 
>> test, I switched to bash). To make your commands work, I only had to:
>>
>> - first do 'sudo pip install virtualenv --upgrade'  (I don't know if this 
>> was necessary, but my prior version was old)
>>
>> - replace 'python -m venv' with 'virtualenv' in your suggested commands 
>> -- without this, it failed with "No module named venv" (even after 
>> upgrading virtualenv). (I never upgraded pip -- could that be the problem? 
>> Another possibility -- my python 2.7 comes from ActiveState (ActivePython 
>> 2.7.8.10), not python.org.)
>>
>> Anyway, after that, "python" was using the new pyglet, and the first 
>> pyglet program I tried worked. I will keep using the new pyglet and report 
>> any problems. (BTW, thanks very much for all your work in producing this 
>> upgrade.)
>>
>> Do you happen to know whether .pyc files should be compatible between 
>> virtualenvs (assuming the same python executable produced them, not 
>> counting virtualenv's copy as being different from the one it was based 
>> on), or should I remove all .pyc files when switching virtualenvs, as a 
>> precaution? (I know that, in theory, .pyc files are supposed to contain 
>> version information that makes it unnecessary to ever remove them, but in 
>> practice, I have had crashes from not removing them when switching python 
>> executables.)
>>
>> - Bruce Smith
>>
>> On Sat, May 13, 2017 at 12:06 AM, Rob van der Most <[email protected]> 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Also these instructions should help for all platforms:
>>>
>>> http://pyglet.readthedocs.io/en/pyglet-1.3-maintenance/internal/virtualenv.html
>>>
>>> Rob
>>>
>>> On 13 May 2017 at 08:49, Benjamin Moran <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Bruce, 
>>>>
>>>> If you're on Linux, this should do it: 
>>>>
>>>> python -m venv  pygletvenv
>>>> source pygletvenv/bin/activate
>>>> pip install pyglet==1.3.0b1
>>>>
>>>> After you've called bin/activate, you should see your bash shell 
>>>> indicate that you're in a venv. Any programs you run from this point will 
>>>> use the python interpreter and libraries that you've installed while 
>>>> inside 
>>>> this virtualenv.  When you're done, simply type "deactivate" to exit from 
>>>> the virtual environment. 
>>>>
>>>> As a quick test, simply type "python", then "import pyglet", and check 
>>>> "pyglet.version". 
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Saturday, May 13, 2017 at 12:56:36 PM UTC+9, Bruce Smith wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> > I recommend you do this in a virtualenv to not remove the existing 
>>>>> version of pyglet on your system.
>>>>>
>>>>> For those of us who rarely use virtualenv, can you show us a short 
>>>>> command sequence which would install or update virtualenv, create a 
>>>>> new virtualenv, install pyglet 1.3.0b1 in it, and run an existing 
>>>>> python program in it (consisting of many python files, some of which do 
>>>>> sys.path manipulations to import python files from non-child 
>>>>> directories)? 
>>>>> (In my case I normally use python 2.7 and run this by typing something 
>>>>> like 
>>>>> "python main.py".)
>>>>>
>>>>> (I'd be happy to test the new pyglet release this way, but I keep 
>>>>> putting off the needed googling to answer that virtualenv question 
>>>>> myself, and I'm guessing someone here just knows the answer.)
>>>>>
>>>>> - Bruce Smith
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, May 6, 2017 at 11:36 AM, Rob <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I am proud to present the first beta version of pyglet 1.3.0. This 
>>>>>> version should contain all the functionality we want to release for 
>>>>>> 1.3.0. 
>>>>>> But we now need _your_ help to test it. Please try it in your projects 
>>>>>> and 
>>>>>> inform us of any issues you find.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The easiest way to get this release is using pip:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> pip install pyglet==1.3.0b1
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I recommend you do this in a virtualenv to not remove the existing 
>>>>>> version of pyglet on your system.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Release notes: 
>>>>>> https://bitbucket.org/pyglet/pyglet/raw/928d7bd532ef4be72a45599a77ffcdbcdde7712d/RELEASE_NOTES
>>>>>> Documentation: 
>>>>>> http://pyglet.readthedocs.io/en/pyglet-1.3-maintenance/
>>>>>> Downloads: https://bitbucket.org/pyglet/pyglet/downloads/
>>>>>> Pypi: https://pypi.python.org/pypi/pyglet/1.3.0b1
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Please report issues here: https://bitbucket.org/pyglet/pyglet/issues
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Kind regards,
>>>>>> Rob
>>>>>>
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