Rob,

2012/5/24 Rob Peters <[email protected]>:
>
>
> On 2012-05-24 15:30, Peter Bittner wrote:
>>
>> Oooops, that's starts getting interesting!
>>
>> What if Pyjs would integrate all kinds of JS frameworks (mostly some
>> that provide UI widgets, I would suppose) and one could say at compile
>> time (or so) which one to use for the generated application!? ...
>> Sounds ... awesome ... scary ...<your opinion here>
>>
>> - Who would decide on what framework would make it into Pyjs?
>>
>> - What would the design look like that makes it possible to do such a
>> thing? (i.e. using the same Python code that generates a web app with
>> the widget library of your choice)
>>
>> Not sure whether this would entail any serious disadvantages, issues,
>> challenges.
>>
>> Peter
>>
> It is interesting, but I'd rather "Do One Thing Well" first. I vote for
> tracking GWT step-for-step, and making PYJS attractive because it has all
> the advantages of Google's engineering, plus the pure joy of working in
> Python. I don't care if alternative frameworks are added later, but the GWT
> widgets aren't even 100% now. I think an automated conversion process that
> kept us on the bleeding edge (we can still use that metaphor here, can't we?
> :)) of GWT development would, mixed with the advantages of Python, make us a
> killer project.

Absolutely, I agree! 100% positive.

> Just my two cents. I was in PYJS (and loved developing with PYJD), but am in
> GWT now because the widgets and compiler just aren't in the same league as
> GWT is currently (my PYJS application was 5MB, my GWT application (which is
> feature-identical) is 200kb). I'd love to go back to PYJS. I coded twice as
> fact and loved the flexibility and fewer lines of code. But it's just not
> industrial strength yet.

If that's really the case that newer GWT releases result in a much
smaller generated code (i.e. if it's not the pyjs compiler's fault)
then this point only would be a great relief for me too! I still
hesitate to recommend Pyjs for, e.g., small feature additions to a
website - which should be possible with Pyjs I think, not only huge
applications made of 100% Pyjs - because it just would put a huge
performance burden on the website.

Pair it with the lastest and greatest of current GWT development, and
let's stick with calling it "scarry bleeding ouch ouch ouch I am
bloodyedge", haha!  ;-)

Peter

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