> I'd be interested to hear what the RW rip looks like near the end of the 
> file. Is it all zeroes for instance?
> 
> Also is the 2352 vs 2448 pattern repeated to the end of the file? Say the 
> last sector in the RW_RAW file is sector 10000. In the RW_RAW file, the audio 
> should start at byte 24480000, while in the RW file, the same audio sector 
> should be seen at byte 23520000. If the next 2352 bytes at these two sectors 
> are the same, then the same pattern has probably held for the entire 10000 
> sectors. In that case, I'd be interested to see what the remaining data in 
> the RW file looks like. The data from the RW_RAW file has ended so what is 
> being put in the remaining section of the RW file?
> 
> If the audio sectors at 23520000 and 24480000 are *not* the same, then 
> perhaps there are still CDG blocks being inserted in the RW file but not 
> after each 2352 bytes of audio, say at the end of each track. I'd find this 
> weird as surely the drive isn't buffering up the CDG data while carrying on 
> through the audio?
> 
> Just thinking out loud really, let's see what the data looks like at the end 
> of the file.

Hi Kelvin,

I did the test you talked about using the exact numbers you mention
(they seem like as good as any to see if the pattern holds). The audio
at those two points is *not* the same.

In the RW_RAW file byte 24480000 is definitely the start of an audio
sector because it follows what is obviously a subcode block. (lots of
0x00 and 0x40 values, the 0x40 bytes represent a set bit in the q
channel). The audio that starts at 24480000 (0x1758900h) in the RW_RAW
file is totally different to what ever the data is at 23520000
(0x166E300h) in the RW file.

I also find it hard to believe that the drive buffers all the subcode
and spews it out at the end of the track (although cdrdao might) so
something else must be going on here.

The end of the .bin file:

The the end of the RW_RAW file there are lots of zeros (audio)
interspersed with obvious subcode (0x08 representing p channel bit set
and 0xC0 representing p and q channel set, this is what we would expect)


The end of the RW file is full of zeros. As far as I can tell the last
non zero data is at 641378399 (0x263AA85Fh).

Both files are 642511872 bytes. 

The data near the end of the RW file does look very suspicious, it
doesn't really look like audio to me but I could be very wrong there,
and who is to say what audio looks like. :)


I'll keep poking around.


Drew.



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