On Fri, 2011-03-04 at 12:00 -0800, Mike Orr wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 11:42 PM, Peter Alexis <palexis2...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>I mentioned "unless there are new magical docs", because I think 99%
> >> of the problems with pyramid right now are the docs.  They're hard to
> >> sift through (rather dense) and easy to miss things in.  Meanwhile,
> >> docs for projects like Django and Rails are really light and breezy...
> >> and link to the more-in-depth specialized docs and api docs.
> >
> > I feel more or less same, 'coz I was finding much difficulty in
> > understanding the framwork from the document. Escpecially, the
> > registration, configuration, the Z* things etc...
> > The framework is so powerful, but lack of clean medium to get into it
> > causing people to take U turn. It would be much better if we can re-
> > arrange/modify the documents in a way to take out Z* things, traversal
> > and all complex topics to 'Advance' section seperately.
> 
> This is where Pyramid's multiple goals come into play. The BFG-ish
> users say that Traversal was immediately understandable to them and
> they could apply it right away, while they find URL Dispatch
> cumbersome.
> 
> ZCML configuration was moved to the back of the manual for exactly the
> reason you describe, because it was a stumbling block for the large
> number of Pylons users who were about to come, and the BFG users knew
> where to find it in the back of the manual. I'd support moving
> Traversal to the back except I think there'd be more resistance to
> doing that than there was for ZCML. Traversal is central to an
> application if you're using it, whereas ZCML is "just zis
> configuration format, y'know". [voice of Zaphod Beeblebrox's
> psychiatrist]

There is no ZCML in the Pyramid docs anymore.  It was all moved to the
pyramid_zcml package docs, and in order to use ZCML, you must install
that package.

- C



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