On 22 jan, 10:33, Dmitry Lipovoi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> orm is abstraction over database query language. you can make queries
> in oo-terms. so your business logic stays clear and you dont care
> about object persistence.

Bullshit.

When using a RDBMS,  the database schema is actually 90% (or more) of
the "business logic". Treating a relational database as an "object
persistance" mean is just braindead. FWIW, if what you want is object
persistance, then we have a pretty good Python OODBMS (the ZODB),
which is quite easy to use with Pylons if you want to.

Anyway, SQLAlchemy - while having some "ORM" features - is not an ORM
but an attempt at a better integration of SQL into Python. And as far
as I'm concerned, a mostly successful one. I used it - with and
without the "ORM" part - on a couple projects, and it has proven to be
really worth the extra configuration hassle and learning time.
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