Hey Jerry, I've read and follow most of what you listed and found it
all most helpful. Another HUGE help for me were IRC channels like
#pylons,  #python, #sqlalchemy and others on freenode. This allowed me
to learn from others and pass on knowledge. It is surprising how
helpful it is to help others in that not only do you add another way
in which to retain the knowledge but also realize things you might not
have known by helping others that think differently and need things
explained in different ways.

On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 2:40 PM, jerry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> One day, I'm going to start my own blog, even if just for correcting
> all those broken links.
>
> Jerry
>
> On Nov 4, 2:23 pm, jerry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Hi Zoogie,
>>
>> First of all, congratulations on making the right decision with Pylons
>> (not saying other choices are wrong... :), whose learning curve _will
>> be_ steeper than those of its peers, but its payoff will more than
>> offset the investment.
>>
>> Back when I started, I had to "Dive Into Python" [http://
>> diveintopython.org/] before anything else. I particularly like its
>> approach of being pragmatic, i.e., demonstrating incremental steps of
>> a (semi-)real life project, rather than showing Hello-World examples
>> chapter after chapter, and it even has a nice blend of some best
>> practice (TDD!).
>>
>> Then I read from cover-to-cover the "Pylons Wiki" [http://
>> wiki.pylonshq.com/dashboard.action], following every step of the
>> tutorials. Of course nowadays a nicer trail is laid out in "The Pylons
>> Book" [http://pylonsbook.com/]. I chose Genshi as my template engine
>> and found Christopher's "Geddit Tutorial" [http://genshi.edgewall.org/
>> wiki/GenshiTutorial] of great help.
>>
>> While trying to grasp the WSGI concept, I had to read PEP 333 
>> [http://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0333/] more than 10 tens (seriously, and
>> still not digesting 100% its concepts).
>>
>> As for database/SQL, I read half of "Joe Celko's SQL for Smarties:
>> Advanced SQL Programming" [http://www.amazon.com/Joe-Celkos-SQL-
>> Smarties-Programming/dp/1558605762], which prepared me for the more
>> advanced topics ("Joe Celko's Trees and Hierarchies in SQL for
>> Smarties" [http://www.amazon.com/Hierarchies-Smarties-Kaufmann-
>> Management-Systems/dp/1558609202/ref=pd_sim_b_1/181-5524468-1861956]).
>> I subscribe to the "pgsql.sql Google Group" [http://groups.google.com/
>> group/pgsql.sql/topics], a low-volume news group for intermediate to
>> advanced (pl)SQL related discussions.
>>
>> I also read "RESTful Web Services" [http://www.amazon.com/RESTful-Web-
>> Services-Leonard-Richardson/dp/0596529260/ref=sr_1_1?
>> ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1225817701&sr=1-1] to acquire basic understanding
>> of REST before designing my routes.
>>
>> Frontend side, I chose jQuery so "Learning jQuery" 
>> [http://www.amazon.com/Learning-jQuery-Interaction-Development-JavaScript/dp/...]
>> becomes a must-read.
>>
>> From not too long ago I started to subscribe to "unofficial planet
>> python" [http://www.planetpython.org/] and find it worth recommending.
>>
>> Last but not the least, how can I leave out the classic "Test Driven
>> Development: By Example" [http://www.amazon.com/Test-Driven-
>> Development-Addison-Wesley-Signature/dp/0321146530/ref=sr_1_1?
>> ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1225817901&sr=1-1] -- just wish it comes with an
>> automatic cane that will whip me every time that I fail to write a
>> test first.
>>
>> Learning is an arduous process, but every sequoia starts from a tiny
>> seed, all we need to do is stand taller than yesterday, in good times
>> or not [http://venturebeat.com/2008/10/10/the-sequoia-rip-good-times-
>> presentation-get-your-copy-here/].
>>
>> Jerry
>>
>> On Nov 3, 8:07 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>
>> > Jerry, very inspiring. Well done.
>> > I am where you were a year and a half ago.
>> > Trying to learn Pylons , but realizing I have to learn cgi (at least
>> > to get a better understanding of the big picture), sql etc.
>> > It gets a little confusing.
>>
>> > Do you mind sharing some of your learning resources, and probably even
>> > the order of learning that made most sense?
>> > thanks
>>
>> > Zoogie
> >
>

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