Switched to bottom-posting to make it easier to discuss this. > On Jan 27, 6:50 pm, Jemes Hsu <jemes...@gmail.com> wrote: >> Pyramid is carrying a lot of old baggage. Reading about Pyramid, you are >> reading the history about repoze, ZOPE and Pylons and about Pylons >> projects. One needs to understand Pylons web framework is different from >> Pylons projects. There is no Pyramid branded delicate website. All these >> can make learning about Pyramid a bit confusing to beginners. As an >> example, the discussion group of Pyramid is at pylons-discussion. First "The >> Pylons Project was founded by the people behind the Pylons web framework to >> develop web application framework technology in Python." then Pylons web >> framework is in legacy status. Suggestion is for website to play down on >> topics with history, even to the extend of hiding Pylon web framework. Just >> want Pyramid to thrive. I'm new to Pyramid, still learning it, excited by >> it and will likely use it for next project.
On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 9:47 PM, Eric Ongerth <ericonge...@gmail.com> wrote: > +1 here, even from myself who had some legacy Pylons apps lying > around. It's worth re-evaluating the issue. Pyramid has invested a lot in the joint pylonsproject.org website. I don't think we want to rip it up to create a separate Pyramid site. But perhaps we can adjust the wording on the home page and the main documentation page to address this confusion. I come from a Pylons background so I focus on documentation for users transitioning from Pylons. Most of our initial users came from either a Pylons or BFG background -- or they'd heard about Pylons for years without using it -- and the first thing they want to know is how Pyramid relates to these frameworks. But maybe now there's a new generation of users who don't have a either Pylons or a BFG background, who find all the history and non-Pyramid alternatives distracting. If so... again, I don't think we want to rip the manual and website apart to address it. But maybe the documentation intro or a supplemental doc can start with what Pyramid *is*, now, standalone, and then at the end mention how the alternatives relate to it. -- Mike Orr <sluggos...@gmail.com> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "pylons-discuss" group. To post to this group, send email to pylons-discuss@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to pylons-discuss+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/pylons-discuss?hl=en.