The invite-only nature of slack is the biggest barrier I see.  Does slack
provide a way to make a channel public?

On Friday, December 26, 2014, Blaise Laflamme <bla...@laflamme.org> wrote:

> Michael,
>
> it's not moving away IRC but sometimes and for some collaboration work
> it's easier and more convenient to use a tool that gives you more?
>
> We already have documents on Google to help somehow, IRC is kind of
> chaotic for organization, Slack provides the best of IRC with better
> integration tools IMHO.
>
> On Friday, December 26, 2014 1:40:53 PM UTC-5, Michael Merickel wrote:
>>
>> I'll go ahead and be that guy who says he doesn't like seeing his open
>> source community move away from irc.  Sure slack may work with irc but
>> is there actually a problem with just using irc?? This is maybe the
>> 2nd or 3rd pyramid discussion I'm seeing offloaded to slack and it
>> bothers me.
>>
>> Back to the original discussion, why the sudden push for subdomains?
>> We could easily just re-org things under pylonsproject.org and make it
>> significantly easier to secure with https in the future.
>>
>> On Fri, Dec 26, 2014 at 11:40 AM, Bert JW Regeer <xist...@0x58.com>
>> wrote:
>> > Speaking of Slack, what’s the info and how could I join?
>> >
>> > Bert
>> >
>> >> On Dec 26, 2014, at 15:55, Paul Everitt <paulwe...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>>
>> >>> On Dec 26, 2014, at 9:50 AM, Blaise Laflamme <bla...@laflamme.org>
>> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> You're right about this issue and I think time has come to do
>> something.
>> >>>
>> >>> Me and Paul started some efforts on this and never finished it but we
>> were on a good track I think. What I suggested him lately was to streamline
>> and narrow the original scope and start work on unifying what we have.
>> >>>
>> >>> For sure I need to finish the brand stuff I already started and
>> spread it across what we already have online but we also need to rethink
>> how the information is structured and how we relate everything.
>> >>>
>> >>> I propose to move this discussion over slack :)
>> >>
>> >> Sounds fun. Let’s create a #pylons there..oh wait, we don’t want to
>> perpetuate the word “Pylons”…oh wait, we want to reinforce it as an
>> umbrella. Core dump. :)
>> >>
>> >> I think a Slack channel would be good.
>> >>
>> >> —Paul
>> >>
>> >>>
>> >>> On Friday, December 26, 2014 1:56:07 AM UTC-5, Sontek wrote:
>> >>> There is a lot of confusion around the "Pylons" organization and I
>> think in general our http://www.pylonsproject.org/ website doesn't help
>> alleviate any of that confusion.  For example you can't even go to
>> http://www.pylonsproject.org/projects and get a list of Pylons projects,
>> this just redirects to Pyramid's about page.
>> >>>
>> >>> I feel we should decide which are "official" pylons projects and make
>> it extremely obvious which ones fall under this umbrella.  Off the top of
>> my head the following are ones probably worth listing under this umbrella:
>> >>>
>> >>> https://github.com/Pylons/colander
>> >>> https://github.com/Pylons/deform
>> >>> https://github.com/Pylons/substanced
>> >>> https://github.com/Pylons/venusian
>> >>> https://github.com/Pylons/waitress
>> >>> https://github.com/Pylons/webtest
>> >>> https://github.com/Pylons/webob
>> >>>
>> >>> Now they all already live under the /Pylons/ organization on github
>> but there are plenty of less "complete" projects underneath that
>> organization that makes it hard to track down which are ready for prime
>> time.
>> >>>
>> >>> The other big issue is a lot of these live under their domain, under
>> pythonpaste.org, or don't have a website outside of readthedocs at all.
>> >>>
>> >>> I propose that we create subdomains for each of them and make sure to
>> be consistent on including a footer that mentions that they are pylons
>> projects.  This would be similar to how the Apache organization manages
>> their projects:
>> >>>
>> >>> http://kafka.apache.org/
>> >>> https://spark.apache.org/
>> >>> http://cassandra.apache.org/
>> >>>
>> >>> and how pocoo does it:
>> >>>
>> >>> http://flask.pocoo.org/
>> >>> http://click.pocoo.org/
>> >>> http://werkzeug.pocoo.org/
>> >>>
>> >>> It would probably also make sense to try to maintain a more
>> consistent brand across each projects website as well. Allowing each
>> project to have some personality of their own will be important by keeping
>> a standard color scheme and layout would help people recognize a pylons
>> project immediately.
>> >>>
>> >>> What do you wonderful humans think?
>> >>>
>> >>> - sontek
>> >>>
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