It’s not recommended. But it’s there for you to use if you want. When you
do a commit you’re crossing transaction boundaries to continue the request
and all of the checks you did early on are not guaranteed any longer to be
valid.

Using a separate connection is the best and most generally sound way to go
for recording data not specific to the resource-level goals of processing
the request.

On Sun, Feb 9, 2020 at 12:37 Mike Orr <sluggos...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I sometimes use explicit commits to log usage stats, which I want to
> succeed even if the request later aborts. I use a separate database
> connection not attached to the transaction. I tried to use pyramid_tm
> commit multiple times but it seemed it could only be used once. So
> you're supposed to use transaction.commint/abort followed immediately
> by transaction.begin? That wasn't clear in the docs.
>
> I've also used a custom transaction adapter to get a Redis session
> attached to the transaction. Since Redis is non-transactinal, t saves
> its pending work in the object, and on commit it writes it to the
> database.
>
> On Fri, Feb 7, 2020 at 9:04 AM Michael Merickel <mmeri...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > pyramid_tm does have a configurable activate_hook that you can use to
> turn off the TM for certain endpoints. You would need to coordinate that
> with something else that managed the transaction. If I were doing it myself
> I'd probably configure my activate hook to return true/false based on an
> custom attribute on the request like `request.activate_tm`. I'd then set
> this to False in a tween mounted over pyramid_tm. The reason I'd do it this
> way is because if you're turning off pyramid_tm then you probably still
> need to do something to manage the connection - and a tween would be a good
> spot to do this.
> >
> > That being said, I'd ask why you would want to turn it off instead of
> just committing multiple times? You just need to use `request.tm.commit()`,
> `request.tm.abort()` and `request.tm.begin()` instead of
> `request.dbsession.commit()`. Make sure to always call begin after
> commit/abort and things should work fine - whether it's a good idea or not
> in general (see Mikko's comments) is a separate question.
> >
> > - Michael
> >
> > On Thu, Feb 6, 2020 at 7:03 PM Jonathan Vanasco <jonat...@findmeon.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> one of my apps uses pyramid_tm, but has reached a point where one
> (possibly two) views (out of dozens) need to make explicit commits with the
> SqlAlchemy session.
> >>
> >> does anyone know if it's currently possible to handle this?  i have a
> few apps that only integrate pyramid_tm on a small subset of views, but i
> haven't tried to bypass it on a single view in many years.  I'm trying to
> avoid a secondary database connection, because this app can support a
> sqlite database and I've had problems with too many connections and sqlite
> in the past.
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