> On Jan 12, 2017, at 02:22, Thomas Koch <k...@orbiteam.de> wrote:
> 
> Dear Jan, 
> thanks for your explanations.
> 
>> PyLucene is driven by its own community, and user involvement and 
>> contributions is a must.
> I’m quite familiar with community contributions - have already submitted code 
> and feedback, tested Pylucene releases, did provide support to other users 
> and voted several times for new releases.
> 
> 
>> The (sub)project will survive only to the extent that its current users 
>> invest in it.
> so is this different to how the main (Java)Lucene project works? just curious 
> …
> 
> 
>> For an ASF Open Source Project, the only thing that is required to get going 
>> is user/developer
>> involvement and teamwork. While Andi started the project due to needs at the 
>> time, and became
>> a committer, he is no longer an active user, so perhaps time has come for 
>> other users to step ut and take
>> responsibility.
>> 
> That’s first time I hear this (bad) news. So if Andi is no longer an active 
> user - who is the maintainer of PyLucene/JCC?

I am still the maintainer of this project. I am no longer using Lucene or 
PyLucene on a daily basis since 2011. I'm still happy to continue maintaining 
the project, though.

Andi..

> 
>> How “funding” would look like in the Python3 case is not so much sending 
>> money to the ASF,
>> but more for individual companies like your own, to sponsor (through 
>> developer time) the major
>> work on the patch, and driving it through to completion. Hopefully other 
>> users will contribute along
>> the way too.
> 
> 
> We developed and provided the patch (which already took some time) for review 
> and further adaption and really hope now for other users to step in. This is 
> our current position for several reasons an after internal discussions which 
> I cannot disclose here. Sorry. On the other hand, if we’d be the only user(s) 
> interested/willing to push Python3 support (and Pylucene/JCC as a whole) then 
> this project could not survive anyway I fear.
> 
> 
> best regards,
> 
> Thomas 
> —
>> Am 06.01.2017 um 12:32 schrieb Jan Høydahl <jan....@cominvent.com>:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>>> I hope you didn’t get this wrong! We all appreciate the existence of 
>>> JCC/PyLucene and especially all the effort you’ve put into this.  
>> 
>> 
>> PyLucene is driven by its own community, and user involvement and 
>> contributions is a must.
>> The (sub)project will survive only to the extent that its current users 
>> invest in it.
>> 
>>> So if some funding is required to get this going …
>> 
>> For an ASF Open Source Project, the only thing that is required to get going 
>> is user/developer
>> involvement and teamwork. While Andi started the project due to needs at the 
>> time, and became
>> a committer, he is no longer an active user, so perhaps time has come for 
>> other users to step ut and take
>> responsibility.
>> 
>> How “funding” would look like in the Python3 case is not so much sending 
>> money to the ASF,
>> but more for individual companies like your own, to sponsor (through 
>> developer time) the major
>> work on the patch, and driving it through to completion. Hopefully other 
>> users will contribute along
>> the way too.
>> 
>> You will of course need help from experienced developers, but the ideal 
>> situation is that after
>> a couple of such patches that get committed, you (or the developer working 
>> on the code) will be nominated 
>> as committer and can continue developing PyLucene without the need for Andi 
>> or any other one individual.
>> 
>>> There has been some discussions about the future of PyLucene on this list 
>>> but I still didn't see any conclusion/decision
>> 
>> 
>> The discussion sparked some new development and a release, which is a 
>> success. So the decission I guess is to keep PyLucene alive and try to 
>> strengthen the community.
>> As long as the project continues to produce releases, it is (somewhat) alive.
>> If on the other hand another year or two goes by without another release, 
>> I’m sure the PMC will take action again.
> 

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