What I wrote about apple's python 2.3 is false. I had forgot to make
the symbolic link in the 2.3 frameworks to site-packages in fink.
When I do this, I get a nice aqua interface for the hybrid just by
replacing
PyMOLX11Hybrid.app/py23/lib/python2.3
with a link to
/System/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/Current/lib/
python2.3/
Sorry.
Bill
Begin forwarded message:
From: William Scott <wgsc...@chemistry.ucsc.edu>
Date: May 16, 2005 7:51:28 AM PDT
To: Murali Vadivelu <mk...@cam.ac.uk>
Cc: fink-de...@lists.sourceforge.net, pymol-
us...@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: aqual tcltk Pmw gui
Reply-To: wgsc...@chemistry.ucsc.edu
Dear Murali:
Python2.3 distributed by apple in 10.4 does not appear to make use
of their aqua tcltk framework. I don't understand why they didn't
do this, but that was my motivation to compile Python2.4 using
Apple's tcltk framework. In order to get the "hybrid" program that
Warren distributes to use this, you would have to either recompile
Python2.3 in the same way we did for 2.4, or wait for Warren to
distribute the hybrid program using Python2.4. He could probably
be persuaded to have it use Apple's TclTk as long as we all
continue to faithfully support his efforts with MacPymol. I just
renewed my maintenance agreement for MacPyMol; it is definitely
very much worth it.
All the best,
Bill
Begin forwarded message:
Message: 1
From: Murali Vadivelu <mk...@cam.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: [Fink-devel] Python, frameworks and Tkinter in 10.4
Date: Sun, 15 May 2005 16:14:07 +0100
To: William Scott <wgsc...@chemistry.ucsc.edu>,
fink-de...@lists.sourceforge.net
Dear Fink Developers,
Pymol's install plugin menu gives the following error:
AttributeError Exception in Tk callback
Function: <function <lambda> at 0x56d0cf0> (type: <type
'function'>)
Args: ()
Traceback (innermost last):
File "/Users/delwarl/pymol/products/PyMOLX11Hybrid.app/py23/lib/
python2.3/Pmw/Pmw_1_2/lib/PmwBase.py", line 1747, in __call__
None
File "/Users/muralikv/Desktop/PyMOLX11Hybrid-0.98-rc5.app/pymol/
modules/pmg_tk/skins/normal/__init__.py", line 2135, in <lambda>
command = lambda s=self: s.install_plugin())
AttributeError: Normal instance has no attribute 'install_plugin'
Then of interest to developers wanting to use Aqua-Tcl/Tk:
I compiled 0.98 using the .info file from Prof. Bill Scott. as
mentioned by him below.
It works fine. I tested against MacPython version 2.4.1 on Tiger.
I also took the PymolX11Hybrid (version 0.98rc5 downloaded from pymol
site) and removed the X11 Tcl/Tk, Python files and replaced it with
the Tiger provided equivalents. It did not work as the GUI didn't
respond. Then I replaced all the Pymol files, with the fink compiled
Pymol. It works perfectly fine now. However, the Pymol Viewer Window
is still an X11 window! Its the opposite of the original
PymolX11Hybrid.app where the menu/ command window is X11 and the
Pymol Viewer window is native mac!! Does anyone know how to create a
native Pymol Viewer Window so that it does not need X11 at all.
Many thanks.
Best regards,
Murali.
On 14 May 2005, at 10:01 pm, William Scott wrote:
Dear Muraili:
For pymol, I just did this:
<pymol.info>
This uses the original patch file.
Then when it installed I changed the /sw/bin/pymol file to call /
usr/bin/pymol2.4
HTH,
Bill
On May 14, 2005, at 1:53 PM, Murali Vadivelu wrote:
Dear Professor Scott,
Do you have these binaries and/ or specific instructions (if any/
required) in your web site?
Many thanks.
Yours sincerely,
Murali.
On 14 May 2005, at 07:52 pm, William Scott wrote:
Here's a screenshot of how it looks with the fink version of
pymol.
The Pmw menu launches 5 times faster and looks nicer.
http://babyurl.com/pDCJhv/pymol_screenshot.png
On Sat, 14 May 2005, Murali Vadivelu wrote:
I think its a fantastic idea. I built R against the Tiger
version of
aqua-tcl/tk and used a tcl/tk package from inside R (called
RCommander). It works flawlessly! Its just fantastic. The output
graph from the package was displayed in another quartz window
which
has to be opened from inside the R command line manually. Its a
good
work by the R team. They carbonized the binary using a single
line
command from a command line tool included with the Developer
tools.
On 14 May 2005, at 05:46 pm, William Scott wrote:
Hi citizens:
I noticed that 10.4 now comes with an aquafied TclTk framework.
For awhile now I had been manually installing this, and then
manually installing a framework build of Python.
With 10.4, this just became much easier, as the only thing
required
for me to build Python 2.4 was to configure enabling frameworks
and
then to issue make frameworkinstall. To get python to use the
non-
fink TclTk by default, I just put prepended /usr/bin to my path
temporarily. After it installed, I created the symbolic link
/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/Current/lib/
python2.4/site-packages -> /sw/lib/python2.4/site-packages/ to
replace the (empty) framework site-packages directory with mine
from fink, that contains other modules like numeric, scientific,
Pmw, and so on.
As a result, programs (such as pymol) that use Tkinter or Pmw
(which depends on Tkinter) launch FIVE TIMES faster than with
the X-
windows version in fink (6 seconds vs. 30 seconds on my 2x2.5
GHz
G5), and using IDLE is now faster and it is aquafied.
I was wondering if it would be possible to have a version of
Python
within fink that builds against the aqua TclTk in fink? I think
you can potentially put frameworks anywhere.
The only drawback I can see currently is that there are some
functions within Pmw that depend on blt, which is not yet
available
in the aqua form.
Just an idea ...
Bill Scott
