Hi Stuart,

Well, 20,000 £ (ex VAT) for a 20" UXGA is probably not something a lab can afford as easily as a CRT + graphic board... unless you would like to ship some free for advertisement (-;

Best regards,
Philippe

Le 31 janv. 06, à 14:25, Stuart McKay a écrit :

Anastassis,
 
Interesting to read about the demise of the CRT and your problems with flickering screens.
 
You (and the other BB members) may be interested to learn of an alternative technology from IRIS-3D in the UK. Historically targeted at the Oil and Gas Sector for subsurface imaging, it is now being evaluated in the Life Sciences. This product does not suffer from the flickering issues mentioned in this thread, being based around dual projection LCD technology and not requiring special glasses to view:
 
The IRIS solution is a glasses-free 3D display system that enables you to work at up to UXGA resolution in stereo mode, is 2D/3D compatible, can be used in a normal office environment, does not suffer from stereo cross-talk (this means no more ghosting, eye-strain or headaches - enabling you to concentrate on your data rather than be distracted by the display technology) and is compatible with all stereo enabled software on a wide range of SW/HW platforms.
 
More information is available from the company website or by contacting me directly.
 
Regards,
 
Stuart
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----- Original Message -----
From: Anastassis Perrakis
To: Warren DeLano
Cc: pymol-users@lists.sourceforge.net ; CCP4 Board ; ono ; Albert Pauw
Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2006 11:08 AM
Subject: Re: [ccp4bb]: Current Stereo 3D Display Info

Hi all -

While on the subject and after thanking Warren for providing the excellent resource ...:

We have some nice 3D monitors and Nvidia cards in Linux PC's we do stereo with.

Warren correctly points out that you need:

   1280x960  @ 120 Hz requires H-sync of 123 kHz 
      1344x1008 @ 120 Hz requires H-sync of 130 kHz 
      1400x1050 @ 120 Hz requires H-sync of 136 kHz  

(In fact you need your monitor to switch to these refresh rates only when in stereo, but thats a detail)

However, I am totally unable to convince the NVidia drivers we have for Linux to operate at the sync rates I want them to and Warren advices! Thus, we have noticeable flicker at stereo mode (in the non-stereo windows only) which is a shame, given our excellent monitors.
Is that expected or can be corrected ?

Could anyone please advice me how to set the Nvidia Linux drivers to operate at the proper sync rates then ?

Tassos

PS - Iiyama Vision Master Pro 514 / HM204DT (H-sync: 142 kHz) is still available by some European vendors new and is great, we have two, plus an old trusty EIZO T966 which is also cool. (Warren, I could not find that on your list,its a good machine, does 136 and you might be able to find one still)


On Jan 28, 2006, at 20:59, Warren DeLano wrote:

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Folks,

Whether you favor Macintosh, Linux, or Windows for stereo 3D
visualization, you're going to need some specific (and increasingly
rare) hardware.  

To help you find it, we've just updated our information page on
stereo-3D-capable displays, cards, emitters, and glasses:

http://pymol.sf.net/stereo3d.html

Remarkably, we can now only find one company selling a brand new CRT
monitor suitable for stereo 3D.  If you find any others, please do let
us know!

Cheers,
Warren

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