Hi Dean,

The first issue I haven't encountered yet. I can't really say where
that's coming from. As for the second issue, that is a known glitch.
Pymol (at least up to 0.99rc6) has a problem with multiple
transparencies in ray-tracing. If you really need it, you can export
the scene to povray, which will allow you to build complex scenes with
multiple transparent objects. This may be the same issue as losing the
shaded face between two boxes. There it may help to define each plane
uniquely, rather than placing two boxes with the faces coinciding. Or
you can try to add a little bit of space between the boxes. But I
should add that I haven't tried these things yet.

By the way, I also bounce this mail the pymol user list, so that
others may add their comments and/or can learn from it.

Best,

Tsjerk

On Thu, Apr 24, 2008 at 3:41 PM, Dean Waldow <wal...@chem.plu.edu> wrote:
> Tsjerk,
>
>  Thanks, perhaps that might related to other things I have noticed....
>
>  I have noticed some oddities (which I think I can work around) when I place
> multiple boxes next to each other and then do a ray. Have you seen anything
> like these and not that I expect you to have the answers... :) I thought I
> would mention them in case you have seen them. I'm using .99r6 I think.
>
>  1) Looking through one of the middle boxes molecules in there get a 'snow'
> look if the color settings are 1 but when I most the color settings a little
> lower than 1 that seems to got away.
>  2) One other obj (spheroid) which I had set at transparent disappears when
> viewed through a transparent box after issuing the ray command.
>  3) Also when I issue the ray command, I can't see the shadowed boundary
> between boxes like I can before before the ray command.
>
>  Thanks again. I really appreciate the tips!
>
>  Dean
>
>
>
>  On Apr 24, 2008, at 2:21 AM, Tsjerk Wassenaar wrote:
>
>
> > Hi Dean,
> >
> > Good that it works. I suspect the only real difference is the use of
> > ALPHA, which sets the transparency. Do mind the position of the ALPHA
> > keyword and it's value, as these are important.
> >
> > Best,
> >
> > Tsjerk
> >
> > On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 8:08 PM, Dean Waldow <wal...@chem.plu.edu> wrote:
> >
> > >  Hi Tsjerk,
> > >
> > > It works Great!  Thanks so much. I'll have to study your code to see
> where I
> > > was going wrong.
> > >
> > > Dean
> > >
> > >
> > > On Apr 23, 2008, at 10:39 AM, Tsjerk Wassenaar wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi Dean,
> > >
> > > Funny, really. Last week I was just playing around a bit with creating
> > > boxes in pymol, e.g. to create a bounding box, and I wanted to have it
> > > transparent. So here's a script, giving you a function 'rect', which
> > > takes two tuples, specifying the far edges of the box:
> > >
> > > rect( [x0,y0,z0], [x1,y1,z1],name="box",rgbt=[1,1,0,0.5])
> > >
> > > The rgbt argument specifies the color and transparency. Feel free to
> > > go through the code to see how things are done (although you won't
> > > hear me say it's perfect). In case you have any suggestions, also feel
> > > free to contact me, either on or off list.
> > >
> > > I hope it helps. Cheers,
> > >
> > > Tsjerk
> > >
> > > On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 5:22 PM, Dean Waldow <wal...@chem.plu.edu>
> wrote:
> > >  Hi Folks,
> > >
> > > I am very new to pymol and have been learning a lot about using
> (mac)pymol.
> > > However, I seem to be unable to make a box which is transparent and has
> > > color. I have been able to make a box with the *.py script below but
> when I
> > > do the ray tracing to get a nice image the box turns to grey / black. I
> have
> > > also been able to to make prolate and oblate spheriods using ideas from
> the
> > > pymol wiki.
> > >
> > > My eventual goal is to have about three slabs or boxes with spheroids at
> the
> > > interface of these slabs and my pdb results from a monte carlo
> simulation
> > > where the spheriods highlight the changes in shape of my copolymers at
> the
> > > interface.
> > >
> > > Has anyone succeeded in making colored transparent boxes? Or might there
> be
> > > another strategy?
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > Dean Waldow
> > >
> > > Here is the script (modified from one that makes a bounding box I
> believe)
> > > that makes my current solid box which turns grey with I issue the ray
> > > command:
> > >
> > >
> > > from pymol.cgo import *
> > > from pymol import cmd
> > > #
> > > # SEGMENT     1
> > > box = [
> > >   LINEWIDTH, 1.0,
> > >   BEGIN, VERTEX,
> > >   COLOR, 0.0, 0.0, 0.0,
> > >
> > > # Face 1
> > >   VERTEX,   55.000,   55.000,   55.000,
> > >   VERTEX,   55.000,    5.000,   55.000,
> > >   VERTEX,   55.000,    5.000,    5.000,
> > >
> > >   VERTEX,   55.000,    5.000,    5.000,
> > >   VERTEX,   55.000,   55.000,    5.000,
> > >   VERTEX,   55.000,   55.000,   55.000,
> > >
> > > # Face 2
> > >   VERTEX,    5.000,   55.000,   55.000,
> > >   VERTEX,    5.000,    5.000,   55.000,
> > >   VERTEX,    5.000,    5.000,    5.000,
> > >
> > >   VERTEX,    5.000,    5.000,    5.000,
> > >   VERTEX,    5.000,   55.000,    5.000,
> > >   VERTEX,    5.000,   55.000,   55.000,
> > >
> > > # Face 3
> > >   VERTEX,   55.000,   55.000,   55.000,
> > >   VERTEX,    5.000,   55.000,   55.000,
> > >   VERTEX,    5.000,   55.000,    5.000,
> > >
> > >   VERTEX,    5.000,   55.000,    5.000,
> > >   VERTEX,   55.000,   55.000,    5.000,
> > >   VERTEX,   55.000,   55.000,   55.000,
> > >
> > > # Face 4
> > >   VERTEX,   55.000,    5.000,   55.000,
> > >   VERTEX,    5.000,    5.000,   55.000,
> > >   VERTEX,    5.000,    5.000,    5.000,
> > >
> > >   VERTEX,    5.000,    5.000,    5.000,
> > >   VERTEX,   55.000,    5.000,    5.000,
> > >   VERTEX,   55.000,    5.000,   55.000,
> > >
> > > # Face 5
> > >   VERTEX,   55.000,   55.000,   55.000,
> > >   VERTEX,    5.000,   55.000,   55.000,
> > >   VERTEX,    5.000,    5.000,   55.000,
> > >
> > >   VERTEX,    5.000,    5.000,   55.000,
> > >   VERTEX,   55.000,    5.000,   55.000,
> > >   VERTEX,   55.000,   55.000,   55.000,
> > >
> > > # Face 6
> > >   VERTEX,   55.000,   55.000,    5.000,
> > >   VERTEX,    5.000,   55.000,    5.000,
> > >   VERTEX,    5.000,    5.000,    5.000,
> > >
> > >   VERTEX,    5.000,    5.000,    5.000,
> > >   VERTEX,   55.000,    5.000,    5.000,
> > >   VERTEX,   55.000,   55.000,    5.000,
> > >
> > >   END
> > >   ]
> > >
> > > obj = box
> > >
> > > cmd.load_cgo(obj,'segment',   1)
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > >
> > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > >
> > > Dean Waldow, Professor               (253) 535-7533
> > >
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> > >
> > > Pacific Lutheran University          wal...@chem.plu.edu
> > >
> > > Tacoma, WA  98447   USA              http://www.chem.plu.edu/waldow/
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> > > --
> > > Tsjerk A. Wassenaar, Ph.D.
> > > Junior UD (post-doc)
> > > Biomolecular NMR, Bijvoet Center
> > > Utrecht University
> > > Padualaan 8
> > > 3584 CH Utrecht
> > > The Netherlands
> > > P: +31-30-2539931
> > > F: +31-30-2537623<rect.py>
> > >
> > > --
> > >
> > >
> > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > >
> > > Dean Waldow, Professor               (253) 535-7533
> > >
> > > Department of Chemistry              (253) 536-5055 (FAX)
> > >
> > > Pacific Lutheran University          wal...@chem.plu.edu
> > >
> > > Tacoma, WA  98447   USA              http://www.chem.plu.edu/waldow/
> > >
> > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > >
> > > ---> CIRRUS and the Chemistry homepage: <http://www.chem.plu.edu/> <----
> > >
> > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Tsjerk A. Wassenaar, Ph.D.
> > Junior UD (post-doc)
> > Biomolecular NMR, Bijvoet Center
> > Utrecht University
> > Padualaan 8
> > 3584 CH Utrecht
> > The Netherlands
> > P: +31-30-2539931
> > F: +31-30-2537623
> >
>
>



-- 
Tsjerk A. Wassenaar, Ph.D.
Junior UD (post-doc)
Biomolecular NMR, Bijvoet Center
Utrecht University
Padualaan 8
3584 CH Utrecht
The Netherlands
P: +31-30-2539931
F: +31-30-2537623

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