Hi Anto, all, On Fri, Jun 15, 2007 at 01:01 +0200, Antonio Cuni wrote: > Finally, a note which is not related with the work plan but to a > question that appeared in the logs; someone asked whether we want to > "sell" RPython as a stand-alone product. > Last sunday I gave a PyPy talk at Pycon italy and, surprisingly enough, > RPython was perceived as the only (or the most relevant) usable product > of the pypy project. I tried hardly to explain that rpython is basically > only an accident and not very usable, but people are still impressed by > the 300000% speedup. > It would be interesting to know if this perception is world-wide or only > limited to the attendants of my talk (maybe because I didn't stress > enough the pros of the other pypy goals or the cons of rpython).
FYI: Last week i gave a talk at the german Zope annual meeting (extradoc/talk/dzug2007/dzug2007.txt). To briefly summarize: I talked about the .NET backend, python interpreter prototypes/speed/status and the general usability of PyPy and its JIT for implementing other languages. I also noted that the extension module area is currently in flux. Questions at the talk then were mostly about the Python Interpreter, e.g. how to use persistence/Transparent proxy features e.g. with ZODB. Jim Fulton also noted that zope only needs few extension modules and often has pure python versions of its C-coded modules. There wasn't a strong focus on RPython or the ext-compiler but there was e.g. interest (prior to the talk) to port the Zope TAL interpreter to RPython in order to use it with CPython. Here is a thought: if our Python Interpreter becomes more usable and can be used as a replacement for CPython in more cases, people *can* write RPython modules for speed reasons if they want to. Practically, i guess, it'd then be important to untangle the compilation of such written-for-speed extension modules from the translation of the Python Interpreter itself. (this all apart from the question if a better JIT could obsolete the aim for writing RPython modules). best, holger _______________________________________________ [email protected] http://codespeak.net/mailman/listinfo/pypy-dev
