Thanks a lot for the explanation Armin Rigo.

> PyPy to be in the same
> ballpark performance as V8

Since Debian shootout no longer includes pypy we do not know where to
look for good benchmarks, so I had to look at TechEmpower benchmark.
Its my fault for looking at TechEmpower benchmark and not realizing
they are comparing Apples to Bananas , not even Oranges.

>I would ditch PHP in favour of a more reasonable language
After years and years of programming in "Main Stream" programming
lanaguges for almost a dacade , i discovered python , and ditched all
those mainstreams (Java, .Net, PHP and RoR) .
I found Python keep getting better and better making my development
life easier and easier (Code reuse , Clean but efficient syntax) , But
only thing i miss from compiled languages is  Performance.

Due to first test of pypy (since 1.3 i tried to use pypy but it was
not very promising back then) so I was in Fear , Uncertainty and Doubt
about PyPy.
But since pypy 2.x it become a lot more compatible and Performance
becoming really promising
So I am thinking seriously these days about switching to PyPy in
non-scientific library requirement places (my projects needs a lot of
scikit-learn).

Thats why I am looking at performance comparisons Seriously..

Sorry if the discussion I've started tainted pypy.


On Sun, Sep 7, 2014 at 12:42 PM, Armin Rigo <ar...@tunes.org> wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> On 7 September 2014 03:01, Maciej Fijalkowski <fij...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> did you read my previous post how this is apples to oranges? You
>> should setup some more barebone thing than tornado to "compare"
>
> Maybe we should mention that PyPy's JIT technology, when applied
> straight to the Hippy VM, gives a PHP that is comparable in speed to
> HHVM.  PyPy itself has seen Python-specific optimizations for a longer
> time than Hippy for PHP, however.
>
> Anyway, our point is that questions like "when will PyPy be as fast as
> HHVM" are loaded with the implicit assumption "on this benchmark set
> X".  We might as well answer "PyPy has been much faster than today's
> HHVM since many years" since that's true on benchmark set Y.
> Actually, there are such benchmark sets (which we trust more because
> they try to compare apples to apples) showing PyPy to be in the same
> ballpark performance as V8.  But feel free to trust whatever benchmark
> set you want, obviously.
>
> Personally I would ditch PHP in favour of a more reasonable language
> any day of the week.  Then I'd check that the final performance of my
> rewritten app is still ok on <insert interpreter here>.  I bet it
> would be.
>
>
> A bientôt,
>
> Armin.
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