Sergio, I would like to acknowledge the effort at coordination to lndn <[email protected]> - let us "appoint" him as a coordinator and follow his directions. So I will wait for his suggestions.
In my opinion the newbie tutorials are best written by newbies, albeit with critical appraisal by more experienced persons. Of course, anybody could and everybody should contribute! I would suggest that for newbie tutorials, the tutorials should be readable by people who know python and have heard of PySide and would like to try it. If we succed to enable them to solve one problem, no matter how simple, we, IMHO, may have attracted another user to PySide. Al. On Tuesday 02 April 2013 19:11:44 Sergio Pulgarín wrote: On 2 Apr 2013 17:13, <[email protected]> wrote: > > Send PySide mailing list submissions to > [email protected] > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.qt-project.org/mailman/listinfo/pyside > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > [email protected] > > You can reach the person managing the list at > [email protected] > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of PySide digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. PySide Newbie Tutorials (lndn) > 2. Re: PySide Newbie Tutorials (Marc Hankin) > 3. Re: spyder not finding pyqt4.6 except with python2.6 (vs. > python3.3, 3.1, 2.7) , spyder 2.1.14 and 2.2.0beta4 (Algis Kabaila) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Tue, 2 Apr 2013 14:23:29 -0700 > From: lndn <[email protected]> > Subject: [PySide] PySide Newbie Tutorials > To: Algis Kabaila <[email protected]> > Cc: [email protected] > Message-ID: > <caj6ws8s64onym0krqwrmqbfs+5kx0nwkb7nxo3pnvqbnmze...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > On Mon, Apr 1, 2013 at 5:35 AM, Algis Kabaila <[email protected]> wrote: > > > ** > > > > I am in the process of porting the tutorial to PySide and Python 3.x. If > > there are no objections, I would like to post it in the PySide newbie > > tutorial section in a similar style to PySideSimplicissimus: > > > > > > > > From wiki/PySideTutorials link to new page PySideSimple > > > > from PySideSimple links to probably 4 separate stage pages with return to > > PySideSimple, which in turn returns to PySideTutorials. > > > > > > > > Al (aka OldAl) > > > > Hi Al, the newbie tutorials are a great idea. The PySideSimplicissimus > series were well-written and easy to follow. > > What modules do you plan on covering in these new tutorials? The tutorials > we currently have are great but it's not comprehensive in covering more Qt > modules. Here's hoping to see more modules covered in newer tutorials. > I guess I could write a couple of tutorials. I've been using Qt for a couple of years and have touched several modules. What topic do you feel like is evidently missing? > Thanks! > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: http://lists.qt- project.org/pipermail/pyside/attachments/20130402/ec8aa57b/attachment-0001.html > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Tue, 2 Apr 2013 14:41:34 -0700 > From: Marc Hankin <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [PySide] PySide Newbie Tutorials > To: lndn <[email protected]> > Cc: [email protected] > Message-ID: > <CACGromFOn- [email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Hi. I'm a python newbie and a pyside newbie. > I've gone through the zetcode tutorial and the simplicitimus (or whatever > it is called), and I still feel crippled in using pyside. > I used to teach law at a law school and I like to think about pedagogical > issues. > So, if you folks want to try out some of your tutorials on me and get my > questionable feedback about how to improve your tutorials, I'd be very > pleased with the opportunity to give you feedback ... and I confess, I also > would like to learn from you. > > It's really wonderful to follow your emails. The open source python/pyside > community is so giving/altruistic that it is fun to follow your emails. I > wish I could occupy myself with this stuff full time and never see the > nasty interior of a courtroom again. > > Anyway, thanks again, > > Marc > > > > ******************************************************************** > > Marc B. Hankin > > The Law Offices of Marc B. Hankin, Inc. > > Post Office Box 3668, Beverly Hills, California 90212 (Not for > mail:509S.BeverlyDr.) > > Tel: (310) 552-3005 Fax: (310) 382-2416 > > Email: [email protected] Website: www.marchankin.com > > This e-mail message is generated from the law firm of the Law Offices > of Marc B. Hankin, Inc., and may contain information that is confidential > and may be privileged as an attorney/client communication or as attorney > work product. The information is intended to be disclosed solely to the > addressee(s). > > If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, > distribution or use of the contents of this e-mail information is > prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the > sender by return e-mail and delete it from your computer system. > > ******************************************************************** > > > On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 2:23 PM, lndn <[email protected]> wrote: > > > On Mon, Apr 1, 2013 at 5:35 AM, Algis Kabaila <[email protected]>wrote: > > > >> ** > >> > >> I am in the process of porting the tutorial to PySide and Python 3.x. If > >> there are no objections, I would like to post it in the PySide newbie > >> tutorial section in a similar style to PySideSimplicissimus: > >> > >> > >> > >> From wiki/PySideTutorials link to new page PySideSimple > >> > >> from PySideSimple links to probably 4 separate stage pages with return to > >> PySideSimple, which in turn returns to PySideTutorials. > >> > >> > >> > >> Al (aka OldAl) > >> > > > > Hi Al, the newbie tutorials are a great idea. The PySideSimplicissimus > > series were well-written and easy to follow. > > > > What modules do you plan on covering in these new tutorials? The > > tutorials we currently have are great but it's not comprehensive in > > covering more Qt modules. Here's hoping to see more modules covered in > > newer tutorials. > > > > Thanks! > > > > _______________________________________________ > > PySide mailing list > > [email protected] > > http://lists.qt-project.org/mailman/listinfo/pyside > > > > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: http://lists.qt- project.org/pipermail/pyside/attachments/20130402/0d6044a3/attachment-0001.html > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Wed, 03 Apr 2013 09:12:59 +1100 > From: Algis Kabaila <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [PySide] spyder not finding pyqt4.6 except with python2.6 > (vs. python3.3, 3.1, 2.7) , spyder 2.1.14 and 2.2.0beta4 > To: [email protected] > Cc: Pierre Raybaut <[email protected]>, [email protected], > Carlos Co'rdoba <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <9682593.h86yu4x8h8@supremo> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Hi and thanks for kind words re my posting on [email protected]. > > It seems to me that there is some confusion on qt, pyqt and pyside. PyQt > is a Python library of programs that enable python programs to make use of > qt libraries. PySide has very similar (the same?) objectives as PyQt. > > In a commercial environment one could say that PyQt and PySide are > competitors. Each is independent of the other and go about similar > objectives in a different way. > > In my limited experience, operating from a kubuntu (ubuntu with KDE > desktop environment) with Python 2.x both PySide and PyQt4 run "out of the > box" with both downloadable from standard repositories. To my pleasant > surprise, PySide also runs seamlessly with Python3. > > In the days past, PyQt4 had to be compiled from source to run with > Python3. It seems that that is still the case today. If I am wrong, > please tell me! > > I quite unfamiliar with spyder-ide. > > If these ramblings of mine are useful - great. If not, I ask just bear > with me. > > Al. (Algis) > > > > On Tuesday 02 April 2013 11:34:26 [email protected] wrote: > > Greetings. > > > > My goal here is getting python3.3 working the spyder python IDE. (Spyder > > 2.1.14 from the git repo is said to work with python3 by Pierre > > Raybaut, its major developer, at http://spyder-ide.blogspot.com/ in > > the Jan. 24 posting.(The 2.2 series beta4 release of March 12 will not, > > he says. And he's right!) > > > > Neither any other spyder nor pyside are installed in this pure debian OS > > (AVlinux 6.0). This seems to be a bug relevant to pyqt4 naming. Can't > > tell if pyside would provide a [email protected]. > > > > Theoretically qt4 ( "qt4.4+" is specified in the spyder code) should > > work since debian package qt 4.7.3-1+b1 is installed. > > > > python2.6 finds it and starts up spyder with it, thus: > > [email protected] > > python2.6 bootstrap.py > > Executing Spyder from source checkout > > Revision 2114:b2b019b3abb3, Branch: default > > 01. Patched sys.path with > > /home/py/tidings/pyacqs/ide/spyder2.1.14/spyderlib.v21 > > and > > /home/py/tidings/pyacqs/ide/spyder2.1.14/spyderlib.v21/external-py2 > > 02. No PySide detected, using PyQt4 if available > > 03. Imported Spyder 2.1.14dev3 (Qt 4.6.3 via PyQt4 (API v1) 4.7.3) > > 0x. Enforcing parent console (Windows only) > > 04. Executing spyder.main() > > > > ----------- > > > > But no, the pyqt4 is not found with python3.3, python3.1, and python2.7 > > . The same error as produced by the beta arises, namely this: > > > > ------------ > > ide/spyder2.1.14/spyderlib.v21$ python3.3 bootstrap.py > > Executing Spyder from source checkout > > Revision 2114:b2b019b3abb3, Branch: default > > 01. Patched sys.path with /home/.../ide/spyder2.1.14/spyderlib.v21 > > and > > /home/.../ide/spyder2.1.14/spyderlib.v21/external-py3 > > 02. No PySide detected, using PyQt4 if available > > Traceback (most recent call last): > > File > > "/home/py/.../ide/spyder2.1.14/spyderlib.v21/spyderlib/qt/__init__.py", > > line 46, in <module> > > from PySide import __version__ # analysis:ignore > > ImportError: No module named 'PySide' > > > > During handling of the above exception, another exception occurred: > > > > Traceback (most recent call last): > > File > > "/home/py/.../ide/spyder2.1.14/spyderlib.v21/spyderlib/requirements.py", > > line 39, in check_qt > > from spyderlib import qt > > File > > "/home/py/.../spyder2.1.14/spyderlib.v21/spyderlib/qt/__init__.py", > > line 48, in <module> > > raise ImportError("Spyder requires PySide or PyQt to be installed") > > ImportError: Spyder requires PySide or PyQt to be installed > > > > During handling of the above exception, another exception occurred: > > > > Traceback (most recent call last): > > File "bootstrap.py", line 89, in <module> > > from spyderlib import spyder > > File "/home/.../ide/spyder2.1.14/spyderlib.v21/spyderlib/spyder.py", > > line 50, in <module> > > requirements.check_qt() > > File > > "/home/.../ide/spyder2.1.14/spyderlib.v21/spyderlib/requirements.py", > > line 49, in check_qt > > % (qt_infos['pyqt']+qt_infos['pyside'])) > > File > > "/home/.../ide/spyder2.1.14/spyderlib.v21/spyderlib/requirements.py", > > line 24, in show_warning > > raise RuntimeError(message) > > RuntimeError: Please check Spyder installation requirements: > > PyQt4 4.4+ (or PySide 1.0+) is required. > > [64234 refs] > > py@t9012av6:~/.../ide/spyder2.1.14/spyderlib.v21$ > > > > ----------- > > > > Thanks for your help! > > > > @ Algis: > > thanks for your notes posted today on tutorials for pyside, at > > http://lists.qt-project.org/pipermail/pyside/2013-April/001209.html > > Does pyside work with python3.3 on unix (debian linux, AVlinux6.0)? > > >From the elaborate pyside install instructions at pypi.python.org I > > >can't > > tell. There is definitely need for a clear Tutorial posted > > conspicuously! > > > > @ Pierre: > > Many congratulations on your new child. (Read about in the iep > > forum.) And Thanks for spyder! > > > > SC > > Dr. S. Candelaria de Ram > > [email protected] > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: http://lists.qt- project.org/pipermail/pyside/attachments/20130403/53367203/attachment.html > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > PySide mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.qt-project.org/mailman/listinfo/pyside > > > End of PySide Digest, Vol 15, Issue 3 > *************************************
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