Hi Bruno,

Am Montag, den 01.10.2018, 08:13 -0300 schrieb Bruno Oliveira:
> Hi Ronny,
> 
> On Mon, Oct 1, 2018 at 5:01 AM RonnyPfannschmidt <
> opensou...@ronnypfannschmidt.de> wrote:
> > Hi Everyone,
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > the python3 support poll has run its on
> > 
> > https://twitter.com/ossronny/status/1043837215175057408
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > The results have a interesting shape.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 37%    now
> > 
> > 09%    with 3.4 mid 2019
> > 
> > 38%    with the python 2.7 eol
> > 
> > 16%    a year after py 2.7 eol
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 468 votes in the final result.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Its my belief that a increase of the of the sample size wouldn't
> > have
> > 
> > changed the outcome of the poll.
> > 
> > I observed it rather quickly normalizing into that shape.
> > 
> > I consider the 2 peaks important indications of the desires and
> > 
> > considerations of people.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > By my own wishes i'd just go ahead and drop python2 as well, but i
> > don't
> > 
> > consider 37% of the community sample to be enough to warrant
> > something
> > 
> > with such drastic effects right now.
> > 
> > When summing up with the ~9% of the "with 3.4" and also weighting
> > in the
> > 
> > larger time-frame and my impression about the rounding twitter uses
> > we
> > 
> > get a subjective number of ~49%+-1%.
> > 
> > Which i consider a good context for dropping the "general support
> > for
> > 
> > python3".
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > So together with support for python3.4 i want pytest to drop
> > support for
> > 
> > python2 for the general development.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > As for maintenance branches for python2 - i proposed the setup in
> > an
> > 
> > earlier mail and i would like to make a basic outline for its
> > support.
> > 
> > the pytest core developers should actively support, maintain and
> > 
> > backport to this branch until python2.7 goes eol,
> > 
> > at that point we should transition the python2 maintenance
> > involvement
> > 
> > from the core developers from active to passive.
> 
> Sounds good, we should prepare a section in the docs with that
> outline, and put it in our sidebar. 
> 
> What is not clear to me though is when we will start the python2-
> maintenance branch. As I understand it, the maintenance branch would
> go live once we make the first python 3 only release, correct? When
> do you think we should plan for that to happen? End of 2020 or
> sooner?

In the plan i outlined, the first python 3 only release would be the
one that drops 3.4 mid-2019 - at that point in time the maintenance
branch would be prepared before release merge time.-- Ronny
>   
> > Meaning that instead of actively working on porting changes and
> > pushing
> > 
> > releases,
> > 
> > we instead support the wider community with needs to bring in
> > changes
> > 
> > they require and support them with review and releasing.
> > 
> > I believe half a year is more than enough to stabilize and sort out
> > the
> > 
> > 2.7 maintenance branch,
> > 
> > but should i be demonstrated wrong by how this unfolds i'm happy to
> > have
> > 
> > this extend this for another year. 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > But for anything after that the bulk of the python2.x maintenance
> > work
> > 
> > should be left on the shoulders of companies and individuals that
> > have
> > 
> > an actual requirement for that.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > -- Ronny
> > 
> > 
> > 
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