Bugs item #1524938, was opened at 2006-07-19 05:46 Message generated for change (Comment added) made by markmat You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=105470&aid=1524938&group_id=5470
Please note that this message will contain a full copy of the comment thread, including the initial issue submission, for this request, not just the latest update. Category: Python Interpreter Core Group: Feature Request Status: Open Resolution: None Priority: 5 Submitted By: Mark Matusevich (markmat) Assigned to: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody) Summary: PEP MemoryError with a lot of available memory gc not called Initial Comment: Also the gc behavior is consistent with the documentation, I beleave it is wrong. I think, that Gc should be called automatically before any memory allocation is raised. Example 1: for i in range(700): a = [range(5000000)] a.append(a) print i This example will crash on any any PC with less then 20Gb RAM. On my PC (Windows 2000, 256Mb) it crashes at i==7. Also, this example can be fixed by addition of a call to gc.collect() in the loop, in real cases it may be unreasonable. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >Comment By: Mark Matusevich (markmat) Date: 2006-08-03 13:02 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=1337765 Another problem related to the above example: there is a time waste due to a memory swap before the MemoryError. Possible solution is to use a dynamic memory limit: GC is called when the limit is reached, then the limit is adjusted according to the memory left. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: Jim Jewett (jimjjewett) Date: 2006-08-03 00:52 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=764593 Doing it everywhere would be a lot of painful changes. Adding the "oops, failed, call gc and try again" to to PyMem_* (currently PyMem_Malloc, PyMem_Realloc, PyMem_New, and PyMem_Resize, but Brett may be changing that) is far more reasonable. Whether it is safe to call gc from there is a different question. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: Mark Matusevich (markmat) Date: 2006-07-23 23:19 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=1337765 Sorry, my last comment was to illume (I am slow typer :( ) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: Mark Matusevich (markmat) Date: 2006-07-23 23:11 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=1337765 This is exectly what I meant. For my recollection, this is the policy in Java GC. I never had to handle MemoryError in Java, because I knew, that I really do not have any more memory. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: Martin v. Löwis (loewis) Date: 2006-07-23 23:00 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=21627 This is very difficult to implement. The best way might be to introduce yet another allocation function, one that invokes gc before failing, and call that function in all interesting places (of which there are many). Contributions are welcome and should probably start with a PEP first. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: Rene Dudfield (illume) Date: 2006-07-20 02:20 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=2042 Perhaps better than checking before every memory allocation, would be to check once a memory error happens in an allocation. That way there is only the gc hit once there is low memory. So... res = malloc(...); if(!res) { gc.collect(); } res = malloc(...); if(!res) { raise memory error. } ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=105470&aid=1524938&group_id=5470 _______________________________________________ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com