Bugs item #1542949, was opened at 2006-08-19 03:51
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Category: IDLE
Group: Python 2.5
Status: Open
Resolution: None
Priority: 6
Submitted By: David Strozzi (dstrozzi)
Assigned to: Ronald Oussoren (ronaldoussoren)
Summary: idle in python 2.5c1 freezes on macos 10.3.9

Initial Comment:
Hi,

I installed python 2.5b3 on a powerbook ppc laptop
running macos 10.3.9 a few days ago.  python and idle
worked.  Now I installed 2.5c1.  python works fine from
a terminal.  When I start idle, it loads, puts up its
menu bar, opens a shell window, displays usual startup
info, and gives me a prompt.  But, I can't type or get
a cursor. Whenever I move the mouse over the idle
window or menu bar, I get a spinning color wheel and
can't do anything.

I deleted the whole /library/python tree, reinstalled
2.5c1, and exactly the same thing happened.

Oh, and I rebooted :)

Not sure what is happening, or how to diagnose.

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>Comment By: Ronald Oussoren (ronaldoussoren)
Date: 2006-09-14 23:10

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The scary bit is that the bug was "fixed" due to unclear differences between 
the build environment used for 2.5c1 and 2.5c2. 

I'll be building 2.5final as well, so expect this will stay fixed but I'm not 
entirely happy due to not knowing what caused the failure in the first place. 
It 
looks like 2.5c1 was build with a slighly different version of GCC (although 
both machines has Xcode 2.3 installed).

BTW. The issue still exists for 2.4.x, I hope to work on the 2.4 branch this 
weekend.

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Comment By: David Strozzi (dstrozzi)
Date: 2006-09-14 23:03

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I just installed python 2.5 rc 2, and IDLE works!  On the
same 10.3.9 laptop which prompted me to post this bug.  I
guess the other who had problems should try rc2, and may
this bug had been laid to rest.

Thanks to whomever fixed it.

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Comment By: diggableme (diggableme)
Date: 2006-09-09 19:18

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I am a new user that is experiencing the same exact problem.
 I have OSX.3.9 and everytime I start IDLE, it freezes and
the colorwheel somes up.  When I view the console output,
there are no errors or alert messages.

I have also tried uninstalling and re-installing from the
beginning with the same result.  I have been using the
instructions given at this site:
http://www.python.org/download/mac/
desp
I'm very interested to see if there is in fact a resolution
to this problem.  I'm at my wit's end.

-dig

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Comment By: Ronald Oussoren (ronaldoussoren)
Date: 2006-08-28 18:59

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I've created a new installer from the head of the release25-maint branch and 
that works correctly.

I'm keeping this issue open because I want to investigate why 2.5c1 doesn't 
work while the current head of the 2.5 branch does work.

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Comment By: David Strozzi (dstrozzi)
Date: 2006-08-28 17:48

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Well, if there's anything I can do as a 10.3.9 user to test
this, let me know.  Too busy to delve into the python source
code though...

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Comment By: Ronald Oussoren (ronaldoussoren)
Date: 2006-08-28 17:22

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I can reproduce this on 10.3.9: IDLE starts and opens the interactive window, 
but then completely blocks (spinning cursor).

If I start IDLE from the commandline (/Applications/MacPython\ 2.5/
IDLE.app/Contents/MacOS/IDLE) I get a message about 'console' not being a 
valid command name. That requires further looking into, but is a red herring 
for this particular problem, removing the Tk-console hiding code in 
macosxSupport.py results in the same behaviour, without any further output 
on the console as well.

Upgrading aquatk to the latest version (8.4.10.0) on tcltkaqua.sf.net didn't 
help,  IDLE still hangs (Duh, that's because there's a /System/Library/
Frameworks/Tk.framework, which means a user install won't be used for 
IDLE).

The problem is also unrelated to my IDLE.app work, the same problem occurs 
when starting $prefix/lib/python2.5/idlelib/idle.py. 

According to gdb the IDLE process is handing in a semaphore call inside the 
Tcl mainloop. Time to get into serious debugging mode I guess :-(

BTW. IDLE does work correctly on a 10.4.7 system.

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Comment By: Kurt B. Kaiser (kbk)
Date: 2006-08-28 15:59

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Maybe priority should be higher?  Hopefully Ronald has 
time to look at this; I don't have access to a Mac.

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