Bugs item #1778207, was opened at 2007-08-21 01:20
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Category: Python Interpreter Core
Group: Python 2.4
>Status: Closed
>Resolution: Invalid
Priority: 5
Private: No
Submitted By: Jim Hurlburt (jim_hurlburt)
Assigned to: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody)
Summary: rounding inconsisntency using string formatting

Initial Comment:
Sirs:

Using python to generate a text file for transfer of data between systems, I 
seem to be getting inconsistent rounding results using a text formatting string

Python 2.4.3 (#69, Mar 29 2006, 17:35:34) [MSC v.1310 32 bit (Intel)] on win32

print "%9.4f" % (229.0 * .325,)            ->     74.4250   correct
print "%9.2f" % (round(74.425, 2),)        ->     74.43     correct
print "%9.2f" % (74.425,)                  ->     74.42     wrong
print "%9.2f" % (167.255,)                 ->    167.26     correct
print "%9.2f" % (167.2551,)                ->    167.26     correct
print "%9.2f" % (167.2549,)                ->    167.25     correct

It appears as if the string formatting code is a bit flakey.  Perhaps working 
in binary with too small a precision?

For a bit I thought it might be "Round even up, odd down at the .005 break, but 
that doesn't appear to be the case.

Now that I know it's there, I can do a workaround.
Seems as if it deserves a fix or at least a document notation of the problem.

Thanks in advance,

Jim Hurlburt
Atrium Windows and Doors
Yakima, WA

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>Comment By: Martin v. Löwis (loewis)
Date: 2007-08-22 08:01

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As marketdickinson explains, this is not a bug - at least the line you
consider "wrong" does not show a bug. 74.425 is indeed smaller than
74+425/1000, so it's correct that rounding rounds down.

As for documentation, please take a look at

http://www.python.org/doc/faq/general/#why-are-floating-point-calculations-so-inaccurate

Closing as invalid.

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Comment By: Mark Dickinson (marketdickinson)
Date: 2007-08-21 03:02

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This isn't really a bug---it's just one of those unavoidable things that
happens when you're representing decimals using binary floating point: 
take a look at section 4.3 of the General Python FAQ:

http://www.python.org/doc/faq/general/

If anything *is* wrong here it's actually the round() result, not the
string formatting: 74.425 isn't exactly representable as a binary
floating-point number, so Python (like most other languages) approximates
it by the closest number that *is* exactly representable, which is (on my
machine and probably yours too):

74.4249999999999971578290569595992565155029296875

Since this is less than 74.425, the round function would, in an ideal
world, round this down to 74.42 instead of up to 74.43.  In the absence of
an ideal world, making this sort of thing happen reliably and portably is
hard, and I'd guess that round() is unlikely to change.

Have you looked at the decimal module in the standard library?  It sounds
as though you might find it useful.





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