New submission from Terry J. Reedy:

Current situation:

test.support.requires starts with
     if resource == 'gui' and not _is_gui_available():

On windows, _is_gui_available() uses ctypes to determine that there really is a 
graphics screen. On other systems, it just returns True, even when it should 
return False. The _is_gui_available check is repeated with each requires('gui') 
call even though all after the first would be redundant if False were somehow 
recorded. I think it should be. 

test/test_ttkguionly first tries to import _tkinter, as does test_idle, which 
initializes tcl/tk. It then calls tkinter.test.support.check_tk_availability. 
That either does a 'darwin'-ctypes check similar to the one for Windows in 
_is_gui_available (again to avoid a crash), or it tries to create a tk widget 
and looks for a TclError. Given that tcl has already been initialized 
successfully, the widget creation check is a gui-available check for non-Darwin 
systems. A global in tkinter.test.support records the result of the check so it 
is only run once.

If 'gui' is in use_resources, test_idle just does the widget check for *nix gui 
availability. It records a negative result by removing 'gui' from use_resources.

The tkinter system does not work for Idle because Idle tests use unittest test 
discovery instead of tkinter's custom test discovery. Given that, splitting 
test_idle into test_idle_text and test_idle_gui seems to not be possible. 
Anyway, if test_idle were to be split, categories like '_windows', '_dialogs', 
and '_extensions' would be much more sensible and useful.

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For this issue, I propose:

1. Move the custom darwin gui check to test.support, after the custom windows 
gui check. It should be noted that a) Both of these are gui-framework 
independent; and b) Neither seems to be needed for any current buildbots (which 
makes it hard to verify that they work on current systems). However, they were 
needed in the past and might be again in the future, so each should be checked 
*once* in each regrtest run with 'gui' set.

2. If the crash-avoidance checks pass, run tkinter.Tk() as a final check on all 
systems (but especially those not covered by the first checks). But note in 
comments that this will have to change if tk is augmented or optionally 
replaced by another gui framework.

3. In requires(), run the above if 'gui' is set and requested, and record a 
negative result by unsetting 'gui' (removing it from use_resources). Perhaps 
output a note that this has been done. Subsequent gui requests will skip. I 
considered putting this logic in regrtest instead, but see 4.

4. Currently, requires never skips when the caller is the main module. Perhaps 
requires('gui') should skip even then when there is no gui system. This could 
happen if a no-gui system ran a console script with "python -m test.text_xxx".

5. Remove the current gui check from test_idle. Idle tests should continue to 
work as they are.

6. Revising test_tk and test_ttk_guionly to use the revised test.support would 
be a larger patch. It might best be done while modernizing the tkinter test 
system to use unittest discovery and .main, in another issue. I am still 
learning the details of the tkinter test system.

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To avoid immediate controversy, I marked this as an 'enhancement' for 3.4. But 
if the Mac 'darwin' check were currently needed, I would consider it a bug that 
it is buried in a tkinter function whose API is not right for Idle, instead of 
being in test.support. (And in 2.7, the function is buried in a module in a 
package with an illegal name.) So I think backporting should be considered.

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messages: 193966
nosy: terry.reedy
priority: normal
severity: normal
stage: needs patch
status: open
title: Consolidate gui available checks in test.support
type: enhancement
versions: Python 3.4

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