Terry J. Reedy <tjre...@udel.edu> added the comment:

Mac key bindings and Shell home method behavior are separate and long-standing 
issues.  They were discussed together in #18444, and this could be considered a 
duplicate thereof.  However, the two issues need to be discussed and solved 
separately.
  
1. The bindings of <Control-Key-A> and <<beginning-of-line>> on Macs.  The more 
general issue is IDLE key bindings on MacOSX.

Here are the beginning-of-line and select-all bindings in the various keysets. 

>From idlelib/config-keys.def
[IDLE Classic Windows]
beginning-of-line= <Key-Home>
select-all=<Control-Key-a> <Control-Key-A>

[IDLE Classic Unix]
beginning-of-line=<Control-Key-a> <Key-Home>
select-all=<Alt-Key-a> <Meta-Key-a>

[IDLE Modern Unix] # default on *nix, design by Serhiy Storchaka
beginning-of-line = <Key-Home>
select-all = <Control-Key-a>

[IDLE Classic Mac] # so obsolete that it almost should be removed?
beginning-of-line= <Key-Home>
select-all=<Command-Key-a>

[IDLE Classic OSX]
beginning-of-line = <Control-Key-Left>
select-all = <Command-Key-a>

I am guessing that Raymond is using a Mac and a customized version of IDLE 
Classic OSX with Control-Key-A added as either *a* or *the* binding of the 
<<beginning-of-line pseudoevent.  On #18444, I asked whether we should make 
this addition config-key.def.  (No answer there.)  I now realize that doing so 
would break any custom keyset that binds ^A to any other pseudoevent.  So I 
would be very reluctant to change the current keyset.

On the same issue, Ned suggested (July 2013) that even the OSX keyset had 
multiple problems and should be replaced.  A new keyset would have to be 
justified by more than one change, but would not be encumbered by back 
compatibility.  Are standards stable enough on Mac to make a new keyset 
appropriate now?

In June 2016, Serhiy Storchaka posted a new keyset for Linux that he claimed 
followed current Linux standards, such as they are.  It is now the default on 
Linux.  I would do the same for Mac if Ned and Raymond agreed on something.  I 
changed the title of this issue to this generalization, rather than close it as 
a duplicate.


2. The behavior of editor.EditorWindow.home_callback, bound to 
<beginning-of-line>, in Shell.  Jumping to the physical start of line was 
fixed, at least on *nix and Windows, in #3851.  I remember verifying this.  Yet 
now, on Win 10, the old behavior is back.  So, this is not only a Mac issue and 
this part is a duplicate of #31930.

The underlying issue is the mixing of a read-only prompt and the first line of 
a possibly multiline read-write Python statement in the Shell text widget.  
This also leads to the indent problem and a couple of other minor issues.  In 
retrospect, I consider this mixing a design mistake and I am working on a 
suggestion about fixing it.

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nosy: +ned.deily
title: IDLE Keymap for Cntl-A -> Create IDLE Modern Mac keyset

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