Gabriel Marko <marko.gabriel...@gmail.com> added the comment:

@Larry and Terry:

I want to stay out of this discussion or participation on Python development 
for the future as I've expressed it elsewhere 
(https://bugs.python.org/issue34660#msg325515). However, I want to address the 
unfair treatment of my person and what I consider to be a violation of CoC in 
the previous comment (https://bugs.python.org/issue34694#msg325802).

> We have been and will be attacked from extremists on both sides if consider 
> changes on a case-by-case basis, accepting some and rejecting others.
> We have been and will be attacked from extremists on both sides for 
> considering changes on a case-by-case basis, accepting some and rejecting 
> others.

Labeling people as "extremists" without justification is _ad hominem_ and can 
be considered to be a personal attack. The term "extremism" has strong negative 
connotations and it's often related to "calling for violent action". The 
comment doesn't make clear neither 1) who or what group of people is meant to 
be extremist here nor 2) what was considered to be extremist. 

In general _ad hominem_ arguments and attacking someones reputation are not 
part of civil and rational argumentation/discourse. As far as I understand this 
isn't compliant with the Code of Conduct either. 

> Marko called our actions 'madness' and here called us 'irresponsible'.

I find this unfair and a misrepresentation of what I wrote:

> I find this behavior from the Python core developers and representatives 
> simply irresponsible. (https://bugs.python.org/msg325499)

I explicitly referred to _behavior being irresponsible_ not the people. Even 
responsible people can have sometimes irresponsible decisions or behaviour. I 
also explained what I'd meant by "madness" (see here: 
https://bugs.python.org/issue34660#msg325503). And as I've already said 
elswhere:

> I can completely agree that I shouldn't/mustn't make sarcastic comments. 
> (https://bugs.python.org/issue34660#msg325515)

I also agree with Larry that sarcasm isn't the best strategy :) However, 
silencing discussions like this "There will be no further discussion about 
this." (https://bugs.python.org/issue34694#msg325437) isn't a good strategy 
either. 

I don't want to be involved into further discussion and I politely ask you to 
not refer to me or labeling me.

Thank you,

Gabriel

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