New submission from Joseph Perez <jope...@hotmail.fr>:

PEP 585 current implementation (3.10.0a0) differs from current Generic 
implementation about ForwardRef, as illustrated bellow:
```python
from dataclasses import dataclass, field
from typing import get_type_hints, List, ForwardRef

@dataclass
class Node:
    children: list["Node"] = field(default_factory=list)
    children2: List["Node"] = field(default_factory=list)

assert get_type_hints(Node) == {"children": list["Node"], "children2": 
List[Node]}
assert List["Node"].__args__ == (ForwardRef("Node"),)
assert list["Node"].__args__ == ("Node",) # No ForwardRef here, so no 
evaluation by get_type_hints
```
There is indeed no kind of ForwardRef for `list` arguments. As shown in the 
example, this affects the result of get_type_hints for recursive types handling.

He could be "fixed" in 2 lines in `typing._eval_type` with something like this :
```python
def _eval_type(t, globalns, localns, recursive_guard=frozenset()):
    if isinstance(t, str):
        t = ForwardRef(t)
    if isinstance(t, ForwardRef):
       ...
```
but it's kind of hacky/dirty.

It's true that this issue will not concern legacy code, 3.9 still being not 
released. So developers of libraries using get_type_hints could add in their 
documentation that `from __future__ import annotations` is mandatory for 
recursive types with PEP 585 (I think I will do it).

By the way, Guido has quickly given his opinion about it in PR 21553: "We 
probably will not ever support this: importing ForwardRef from the built-in 
generic alias code would be problematic, and once from __future__ import 
annotations is always on there's no need to quote the argument anyway." (So 
feel free to close this issue)

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messages: 374105
nosy: BTaskaya, eric.smith, gvanrossum, joperez, levkivskyi, lukasz.langa, 
vstinner
priority: normal
severity: normal
status: open
title: PEP 585 and ForwardRef
type: behavior
versions: Python 3.9

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