Tim Peters <t...@python.org> added the comment:

> It looks like the difference one would expect from (fast) human input)

Nope, the timestamps in the original report are about 3 hours apart (10808+ 
seconds).

Reports like these are often much clearer if they state the timezone of the 
system they're running on.

Plausible here: as the docs say, `utcnow()` returns a _naive_ datetime - no 
timezone info is attached.

But `.timestamp()`:

"""
Naive datetime instances are assumed to represent local time 
"""

So I _expect_ the results to differ unless the box this is running on uses UTC 
as its local time.

On my box, in native timezone CDT, the two ways are 5 hours apart, which is 
indeed CDT's offset from UTC.

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nosy: +tim.peters

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