Ned Deily <[email protected]> added the comment:
Thank you very much for the patch. I have updated it and modified it somewhat
to work with the latest tip for py3k (3.2b1), 3.1.3+, and 2.7.1+ and to work
with both AquaTk Cocoa 8.5 and preserve current behavior with legacy AquaTk
Carbon 8.4.
Since there are no automated tests for IDLE in the standard library and since
the issues here had to do with differences in menu cascades and options, I
created a program to introspect IDLE menus using the OS X GUI Scripting
interface via py-appscript. That allowed me to semi-automatically capture the
menu configurations for the IDLE configurations of interest (in particular,
Apple-supplied Tk vs ActiveState Tk). The following Tcl/Tk configurations -
all currently, or shortly to be, supported by python.org installers - were
tested:
OS X Tcl/Tk
==== ======
10.6 64-bit ActSt 8.5.9 Cocoa
10.6 64-bit Apple 8.5.7 Cocoa
10.6 32-bit ActSt 8.4.19 Carbon
10.6 32-bit Apple 8.4.19 Carbon
10.5 32-bit ActSt 8.4.19 Carbon
10.5 32-bit Apple 8.4.7 Carbon
10.4 32-bit ActSt 8.4.19 Carbon
10.4 32-bit Apple 8.4.7 Carbon
10.3 32-bit ActSt 8.4.19 Carbon
Each of those Tcl/Tk configurations was tested with both IDLE.app and bin/idle,
each with both py3k(3.2b1+) and 2.7.1+ builds, and each of those with both IDLE
Editor windows and IDLE shell windows (they have somewhat different menu
configurations). Note that testing on 10.3 was much more limited since
appscript, and hence the menutester, is not supported there. Also no
regressions were noted when applied to 3.1.3+ in a 32-bit only build.
So far, the recently available ActiveState 64-bit Cocoa Tcl/Tk 8.5 has proven
to be much more stable than the Apple-supplied 8.5 version in 10.6, which had
rendered the 64-bit versions of IDLE virtually unusable up to now. With the
final patches applied, I found no regressions in the menu cascades for
IDLE.app. When running bin/idle (from the command line), there is a slight
difference when using Cocoa Tk vs Carbon Tk. Both variants of AquaTk
automatically supplies the application names from the app bundle plist. Because
of the way bin/idle is structured today, the app name appears as "Python"
rather than "IDLE". With Cocoa Tk, that appears in a couple more menu items
("About app" and "app Help") than it already does with Carbon Tk. While that
would be nice to fix at some point, it is an existing cosmetic issue and I
assume most inexperienced users will use IDLE.app, where there is no
discrepancy.
I believe this fix is ready to be applied and should go into 3.2 (and as soon
as possible released for 2.7) in conjunction with building the 64-bit OS X
installer to allow use of the ActiveState Cocoa 8.5. This will fix a number of
reported problems with the broken IDLE with previous 64-bit OS X installers.
Still to be done prior to release is updating the installer README and
documenting a few minor issues. A longer-term issue is to make the menu
introspection tests automatic enough to be added to the standard tests as an
optional OS X test.
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assignee: ned.deily -> ronaldoussoren
nosy: +benjamin.peterson, georg.brandl
priority: normal -> release blocker
stage: -> patch review
Added file: http://bugs.python.org/file20096/issue6075_py3k.patch
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