On 10/05/2014 09:36 PM, Ned Deily wrote: > On Oct 5, 2014, at 12:24 , R. David Murray <rdmur...@bitdance.com> wrote: >> >> It is certainly true that I for one ignore anything with his name on it, >> because most of the time it is noise and it isn't worth the effort to >> figure out which ones aren't noise. > > To me, the main issue is that the noise is not just directed at python > committers but also to the python users who have submitted those issues or > otherwise following them (via nosy or otherwise). I think the risk is that > his noise sends a wrong message to those users: i.e. that python-dev has > suddenly taken an interest in this issue and that, by taking the time to > create a patch, the issue will somehow get magically resolved. That won't > happen, of course, unless a core developer chooses to get involved.
Most of the messages like "can someone look at this" don't seem to send any wrong messages. However, I agree that some of them are a bit pompous, like this one: http://bugs.python.org/issue1284316#msg228480 Responses to hints tend to sound offended: http://bugs.python.org/issue1284316#msg228483 > The point of having the issue tracker is to solve problems, not to have a > kind of contest about how many issues can be closed. Yes, all things being > equal, it is better to have fewer open issues but that's not the primary > goal. The tracker does profit from having less inactive issues that are ready to be closed after a trivial commit, or being out of date or missing requested feedback. I've closed a few such in the last few days because of Mark's pings. Remember that one thing we'd like users to see before reporting is to search the tracker for similar issues: the less noise they find there the better. > And I am uncomfortable with the risk of users potentially inferring > that he is somehow a de-facto "project leader" of Python maintenance. Well, those users can easily be informed about the circumstances should a question arise. In total, I think there's no grounds for a ban (yet), but his tone has to be watched. If hints from our side are con ignored or receive ad-hominem responses, that'll change the situation in my opinion. cheers, Georg _______________________________________________ python-committers mailing list python-committers@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-committers