The way to calm discussions is to stop responding. On Thu, Apr 26, 2018 at 4:02 AM, Victor Stinner <vstin...@redhat.com> wrote:
> Hi, > > Since 2 or 3 years, I saw that that discussions on some PEPs get more > and more emails every year. Maybe because Python became more popular? > Openness is a Python quality, but shortly, the amount of emails > becomes an issue, at least for the author of the PEP. > > I counted the number of emails per day of the python-dev mailing list, > using mbox archives available at: > https://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-dev/ > > My script: > https://github.com/vstinner/misc/blob/master/python/parse_mailman_mbox.py > > In March, python-dev got 246 emails with a maximum of 31 the 2018-03-21. > > In April, the traffic was between 3 and 27 emails per day until the > start of the chaos: > > ... > 2018-04-17: 27 > 2018-04-18: 20 > 2018-04-19: 11 > 2018-04-20: 36 > 2018-04-21: 36 > 2018-04-22: 31 > 2018-04-23: 32 > 2018-04-24: 72 > 2018-04-25: 76 > 2018-04-26: 23 > 2018-04-27: 10 > > Current maximum: 76 emails received at 2018-04-25!? > > I'm not sure that it's still possible to read carefully all emails to > python-dev and write constructive replies. It seems like people are > answering immediately, without reading past emails nor reading other > emails sent the same day. > > I'm also concerned by the general mood of the discussion. Are we still > discussing arguments in polite way? > > How can we calm down the discussion, and ask people to don't reply > immediately but instead try to listen to the other people? > > IHMO everybody had enough time to give their very important opinion (I > wrote my own very important opinion, don't worry!) on python-ideas and > then on python-dev. We are now turning around. > > Can we give Chris more time to update his PEP? In my experience, the > PEP is the most constructive tool to drive a discussion. > > I chose to write to python-committers because I now fear that I would > get too many replies on python-dev ... > > Victor > _______________________________________________ > python-committers mailing list > python-committers@python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-committers > Code of Conduct: https://www.python.org/psf/codeofconduct/ > -- --Guido van Rossum (python.org/~guido)
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