Oh, by the way, should we have two different choices: remove the commit bit from a core dev (downgrade a core dev as a regular contributor) and ban a core dev?
Victor Le jeu. 18 oct. 2018 à 00:03, Victor Stinner <vstin...@redhat.com> a écrit : > > Le mer. 17 oct. 2018 à 21:09, Donald Stufft <don...@stufft.io> a écrit : > > Honestly, I think an independent group managing these issues is the right > > way to handle them. I’m loathe to bring it up because the situation was a > > long time ago, and has been resolved, but I’ve personally had to engage the > > CoC process in regards to another core developers behavior. At the time the > > way that was handled was contacting the PSF board, if the process was > > instead to contact python-committers or something I likely would’t have > > done it at all. I think it is important that if someone feels they’re > > having a problem in a particular space, that they feel they have an > > impartial and independent group of people to raise those concerns with. > > > > With regards to whether the CoC can evict a core developer of Python.. I > > think it absolutely needs to be able to do that. Otherwise it’s basically > > stating that it’s fine for someone to harass someone else… as long as the > > person doing the harassing is a core developer. If anything, core > > developers should be held to a higher, not a lower standard. Obviously > > excommunication is not step 1 on any CoC, and such a thing would only be > > used after a history of repeated, on going unacceptable behavior, but if > > the CoC doesn’t have any teeth, than it’s not worth the metaphorical paper > > it’s written on. > > > > So, when it comes to the conduct we expect from people, core developers > > should not be treated specially in either expectations nor process. > > Ok, now in the case of my PEP 8015: do you think that the "Python Core > Board" should be involved in the process to evict a core developer of > Python? > > https://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-8015/#python-core-board > > For example, can we imagine that a core developer would only be > evicted if the PSF conduct WG *and* the Python Core Board would agree > to evict the core dev? Such situation should be very exceptional, and > it may be unpopular if the conduct WG and the Python Core Board > disagree :-( > > If the Python Core Board can block an eviction (have "a veto" on the > final vote), the risk is that friends of the Board are "protected" by > their friendship. And it also opens the question of an evicting a > member of the Python Core Board in case of extremely severe Code of > Conduct violation... But this question can be asked as well for > members of the PSF conduct WG :-) > > I don't know the answers to my question. But maybe it would be safer > for everyone that the *worst* case (evict a core dev) would be defined > somewhere, as in a PEP. > > Victor _______________________________________________ python-committers mailing list python-committers@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-committers Code of Conduct: https://www.python.org/psf/codeofconduct/
