Hi,

In the Python 3.8.3rc1 changelog, I see these two changes:

(1) bpo-39776: Fix race condition where threads created by
PyGILState_Ensure() could get a duplicate id. This affects consumers
of tstate->id like the contextvar caching machinery, which could
return invalid cached objects under heavy thread load (observed in
embedded scenarios).

(2) bpo-39794: Add --without-decimal-contextvar build option. This
enables a thread-local rather than a coroutine local context.

If I understood correctly, these two changes are related.
--without-decimal-contextvar is mostly a workaround to avoid bpo-39776
bug, but bpo-39776 has been fixed. Am I right? Should be remove
--without-decimal-contextvar build option? In bpo-39794, Stefan Krah
wrote "I want to understand the code again, so I'm adding back a
compile time option to enable the thread local context".

Issues:

* https://bugs.python.org/issue39776
* https://bugs.python.org/issue39794

This topic was already discussed 2 months ago:
https://mail.python.org/archives/list/python-committers@python.org/thread/5XUQVY4IUPMFZKQP4GPTU2UMJTOLNBQC/#OBF4OAKDQ4HSCNBXJBO3DQ4Q3Z4DHGWD

Stefan rationale was bpo-39776 bug (which is now fixed):

"While the exact cause is yet unknown (it can be anything like a bug
in the interpreter unrelated to ContextVars), I would like to be able
to tell people in the future to compile --without-decimal-contextvar
if they have such an issue and need a hotfix for their production
3.7."

Is it common to get issues caused by contextvars in decimal? It seems
like the only known issue has been fixed, no?

What is the "hotfix" use case? An user requires a decimal fix
immediately and cannot wait for the next Python release which will
include a fix? I don't think that Python has other build options like
that so it's a little bit surprising.

The question is now if we want to support a new build option. Do we
want to maintain this new build option?

Victor

Le jeu. 30 avr. 2020 à 01:08, Łukasz Langa <luk...@langa.pl> a écrit :
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