Based on the replies here and discussing things with the steering council, we decided we should archive the list.
On Sat, Jul 8, 2023 at 2:57 AM Marc-Andre Lemburg <m...@egenix.com> wrote: > On 07.07.2023 12:11, Marc-Andre Lemburg wrote: > > On 07.07.2023 01:44, Brett Cannon wrote: > > I didn't set up the instance (it's hosted by Discourse for us for free), > but Łukasz or Pablo might know. Else we can ask the infrastructure team at > the PSF. > > I reached out to Ee to see whether anything can be or is already done. > > Ee confirmed that we have a daily Discourse database backup on PSF S3, so > the concern is resolved. > > > On Tue, Jul 4, 2023 at 11:43 AM C.A.M. Gerlach <cam.gerl...@gerlach.cam> > <cam.gerl...@gerlach.cam> wrote: > >> Good point. The PostgreSQL database that stores everything can be backed >> up, stored as a file anywhere and restored fairly easily: >> https://meta.discourse.org/t/122710 I'm only a mod (not an admin), so I >> don't know if we're actually doing it right now, but maybe Brett or one of >> the other admins does—might be a good idea to do regularly just in case. >> >> Besides being restored to another Discourse instance (including self >> hosted), the db schema is documented as comments at the bottom of each file >> in the `app/models` directory, e.g. for posts: >> https://github.com/discourse/discourse/blob/main/app/models/post.rb#L1257-L1327 >> and thus one could browsed, query and extract, e.g. an archive of posts via >> a PostgreSQL client or a script, as well as in the official first-party >> maintained data explorer plugin that runs inside the instance: >> https://meta.discourse.org/t/discourse-data-explorer/32566 >> >> Discourse also has an API: https://docs.discourse.org/ , and you can get >> the data on any page as JSON via adding `.json` to the URL, >> https://discuss.python.org/t/27957.json, so the public data could also >> be scraped and archived that way by anyone interested if desired (just like >> the ML can). >> >> Does that help address your concern? >> >> Thanks, >> CAM >> >> *C.A.M. Gerlach* >> >> >> On Tue, Jul 4, 2023 at 4:57 AM Marc-Andre Lemburg <m...@egenix.com> wrote: >> >>> The only concern I have with moving off of the MLs and to Discourse is >>> archiving of messages. >>> >>> With MLs, the archiving process is pretty straight forward and built >>> into Mailman, but for Discourse this is less obvious. >>> >>> Do we have a solution to archiving Discourse content in place which is >>> under PSF control ? (AFAIK, we are using a hosted Discource installation) >>> >>> Thanks. >>> >>> On 04.07.2023 06:57, C.A.M. Gerlach wrote: >>> > FWIW, +1 to archiving to reduce duplication. If decided, I can help >>> out >>> > making the appropriate devguide, PEP, etc. changes, as I've done for >>> > several previous transitions now. >>> > >>> > Thanks, >>> > CAM >>> > >>> > /C.A.M. Gerlach/ >>> > >>> > >>> > On Mon, Jul 3, 2023 at 2:15 PM Brett Cannon <br...@python.org >>> > <mailto:br...@python.org>> wrote: >>> > >>> > The question has come up as to whether people still find this >>> > mailing list useful enough to keep around. Looking at the archive >>> > ( >>> https://mail.python.org/archives/list/python-committers@python.org/latest >>> < >>> https://mail.python.org/archives/list/python-committers@python.org/latest>), >>> this list seems to be used for two things: >>> > >>> > 1. Announcing new releases >>> > 2. 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