Graham Dumpleton wrote:
On 10/06/2005, at 2:53 AM, dharana wrote:
As for vampire - why would I want vampire? mod_python is great
except this. I personally have no interest in adding yet more
software to my system just to solve the mod_python import issue -
Id rather it was fixed in the right place...not everyone uses
vampire...
I really get annoyed by so much Vampire ads everywhere. I understand
it's developers have spent considerable time in it but I think people
who come to python for webdev from an easier framework do it because
they want _more_ control, not less (at least that is my case). I am
happy with my custom framework in python now, it didn't took me a lot
of time and it's tuned for my needs. I won't look into using Vampire
for that reason.
Vampire is not about giving you less control, it is actually the
opposite. It
gives you more glue components and hooks so as to give you more
control and
more and better ways of doing things over what mod_python by itself
provides.
It is not just some monolithic blob and isn't intended to be a
framework where
you are restricted to working in a certain way.
I'll quit with the advocacy if that is what people want, but it gets
pretty
disheartening when you see people on the mailing list trying to solve
problems,
and not really understanding properly how to do it, when Vampire already
provides an example of how to do it or a pre-canned solution, yet you
can't
even get them too look at it.
I have continually found that it is like the saying "you can lead a
horse to
water, but you can't make it drink". :-)
I'll shut up for a while now.
I think it's great you've solved some of these problems in Vampire...
Some of the solutions should definitely be brought back into mod_python,
using Vampire as a staging ground for mod_python improvements as you
recommended earlier.
David