On Apr 7, 2005, at 11:35 AM, M.-A. Lemburg wrote:

Ok, but I don't really follow you here: you are suggesting to
relax the current UTF-16 behavior and to start defaulting to
UTF-16-BE if no BOM is present - that's most likely going to
cause more problems that it seems to solve: namely complete
garbage if the data turns out to be UTF-16-LE encoded and,
what's worse, enters the application undetected.

The crux of my argument is that the spec declares that UTF-16 without a BOM is BE. If the file is encoded in UTF-16LE and it doesn't have a BOM, it doesn't deserve to be processed correctly. That being said, treating it as UTF-16BE if it's LE will result in a lot of invalid code points, so it shouldn't be non-obvious that something has gone wrong.


If you do have UTF-16 without a BOM mark it's much better
to let a short function analyze the text by reading for first
few bytes of the file and then make an educated guess based
on the findings. You can then process the file using one
of the other codecs UTF-16-LE or -BE.

This is about what we do now - we catch UnicodeError and then add a BOM to the file, and read it again. We know our files are UTF-16BE if they don't have a BOM, as the files are written by code which observes the spec. We can't use UTF-16BE all the time, because sometimes they're UTF-16LE, and in those cases the BOM is set.


It would be nice if you could optionally specify that the codec would assume UTF-16BE if no BOM was present, and not raise UnicodeError in that case, which would preserve the current behaviour as well as allow users' to ask for behaviour which conforms to the standard.

I'm not saying that you can't work around the issue now, what I'm saying is that you shouldn't *have* to - I think there is a reasonable expectation that the UTF-16 codec conforms to the spec, and if you wanted it to do something else, it is those users who should be forced to come up with a workaround.

--
Nick

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