+1 (for what it's worth) to any proposal which includes one (or more)
GUIDOs :)

  S.

On Tue, Oct 23, 2018 at 11:57 AM Victor Stinner <vstin...@redhat.com> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Last July, Guido van Rossum decided to resign from his role of BDFL.
> Python core developers decided to design a new governance/organization
> for Python. 6 governance PEPs have been proposed. It has been decided
> that discussions are reserved to core developers (everyone can read,
> but only core devs can write), since the governance will mostly impact
> the life of core developers. I'm writing this email to python-dev to
> keep you aware that something is happening :-)
>
> Core developers (of the GitHub team) will vote to decide the new
> Python governance in 3 weeks:
> "The vote will happen in a 2-week-long window from November 16 2018 to
> November 30 (Anywhere-on-Earth)."
>
> See PEP 8001: Python Governance Voting Process
> https://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-8001/
>
>
> Below are links to the governance PEPs, their abstract, and link to
> the Discourse discussions.
>
> Note: a Discourse instance is experimented at discuss.python.org to
> maybe replace python-{ideas,dev,committers} mailing lists. See the
> "Discourse Feedback" category at https://discuss.python.org/  :-)
>
>
> (1) PEP 8010: The BDFL Governance Model
> https://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-8010
>
> Abstract:
> """
> This PEP proposes a continuation of the singular project leader model,
> euphemistically called the Benevolent Dictator For Life (BDFL) model
> of Python governance, to be henceforth called in this PEP the Gracious
> Umpire Influencing Decisions Officer (GUIDO). This change in name
> reflects both the expanded view of the GUIDO as final arbiter for the
> Python language decision making process in consultation with the wider
> development community, and the recognition that "for life" while
> perhaps aspirational, is not necessarily in the best interest of the
> well-being of either the language or the GUIDO themselves.
>
> This PEP describes:
>
> * The rationale for maintaining the singular leader model
> * The process for how the GUIDO will be selected, elected, retained,
> recalled, and succeeded;
> * The roles of the GUIDO in the Python language evolution process;
> * The term length of service;
> * The relationship of the GUIDO with a Council of Pythonistas (CoP)
> that advise the GUIDO on technical matters;
> * The size, election, and roles of the CoP;
> * The decision delegation process;
> * Any changes to the PEP process to fit the new governance model;
>
> This PEP does not name a new BDFL. Should this model be adopted, it
> will be codified in PEP 13 along with the names of all officeholders
> described in this PEP, as voted on per the guidelines in PEP 8001.
> """
>
> Discussion:
> https://discuss.python.org/t/pep-8010-the-singular-leader/188
>
>
> (2) PEP 8011: Python Governance Model Lead by Trio of Pythonistas
> https://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-8011
>
> Abstract:
> """
> This PEP proposes a governance model for the Core Python development
> community, led by a trio of equally authoritative leaders. The Trio of
> Pythonistas (ToP, or simply Trio) is tasked with making final
> decisions for the language. It differs from PEP 8010 by specifically
> not proposing a central singular leader, but instead a group of three
> people as the leaders.
>
> This PEP also proposes a formation of specialized workgroups to assist
> the leadership trio in making decisions.
>
> This PEP does not name the members of the Trio. Should this model be
> adopted, it will be codified in PEP 13 along with the names of all
> officeholders described in this PEP.
>
> This PEP describes:
>
> * The role and responsibilities of the Trio
> * Guidelines of how trio members should be formed
> * Reasoning of the group of three, instead of a singular leader
> * Role and responsibilities of Python core developers to the trio
> * Sustainability considerations
> * Diversity and inclusivity considerations
> """
>
> Discussion:
>
> https://discuss.python.org/t/pep-8011-leadership-by-trio-of-pythonistas-top-or-simply-trio/199
>
>
> (3) PEP 8012: The Community Governance Model
> https://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-8012/
>
> Abstract:
> """
> This PEP proposes a new model of Python governance based on consensus
> and voting by the Python community. This model relies on workgroups to
> carry out the governance of the Python language. This governance model
> works without the role of a centralized singular leader or a governing
> council.
>
> It describes how, when, and why votes are conducted for decisions
> affecting the Python language. It also describes the criteria for
> voting eligibility.
>
> Should this model be adopted, it will be codified in PEP 13.
>
> This model can be affectionately called "The Least Worst Governance
> Model" by its property that while far from ideal, it's still the most
> robust one compared to the others. Since avoiding issues inherent to
> the other models is a paramount feature of the Community Governance
> Model, we start the discussion a bit unusually: by rejecting the other
> models.
> """
>
> Discussion:
> https://discuss.python.org/t/pep-8012-the-community-model/156
>
>
> (4) PEP 8013: The External Council Governance Model
> https://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-8013/
> and
>
> https://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-committers/2018-September/006141.html
>
> Abstract:
> """
> This PEP proposes a new model of Python governance based on a Group of
> Unbiased Independent Directors of Order (GUIDO) tasked with making
> final decisions for the language. It differs from PEP 8010 by
> specifically not proposing a central singular leader, and from PEP
> 8011 by disallowing core committers from being council members. It
> describes the size and role of the council, how the initial group of
> council members will be chosen, any term limits of the council
> members, and how successors will be elected.
>
> It also spends significant time discussing the intended behaviour of
> this model. By design, many processes are not specified here but are
> left to the people involved. In order to select people who will make
> the best decisions, it is important for those involved to understand
> the expectations of GUIDO but it is equally important to allow GUIDO
> the freedom to adjust process requirements for varying circumstances.
> This only works when process is unspecified, but all participants have
> similar expectations.
>
> This PEP does not name the members of GUIDO. Should this model be
> adopted, it will be codified in PEP 13 along with the names of all
> officeholders described in this PEP.
> """
>
> Discussion:
>
> https://discuss.python.org/t/pep-8013-the-external-council-governance-model/181
>
>
> (5) PEP 8014 -- The Commons Governance Model
> https://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-8014/
>
> Abstract:
> """
> This PEP proposes a governnance model with as few procedures, defined
> terms and percentages as possible. It may also be called The Anarchist
> Governance Model but uses Commons for now because of possible negative
> connotations of the term Anarchist to some audiences.
>
> The basic idea is that all decisions are voted on by a subset of the
> community. A subset, because although the whole community is in
> principle entitled to vote in practice it will always be only a small
> subset that vote on a specific decision. The vote is overseen by an
> impartial council that judges whether the decision has passed or not.
> The intention is that this council bases its decision not only on the
> ratio of yes and no votes but also on the total number of votes, on
> the gravity of the proposal being voted on and possibly the individual
> voters and how they voted. Thereby this council becomes responsible
> for ensuring that each individual decision is carried by a sufficient
> majority.
> """
>
> Discussion:
> https://discuss.python.org/t/pep-8014-the-commons-model/173
>
>
>
> (6) PEP 8015: Organization of the Python community
> https://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-8015/
>
> Abstract:
> """
> This PEP formalizes the current organization of the Python community
> and proposes 3 main changes:
>
> Formalize the existing concept of "Python teams";
> Give more autonomy to Python teams;
> Replace the BDFL (Guido van Rossum) with a new "Python Core Board" of
> 3 members which have limited roles. Their key role is mostly to decide
> how a PEP is approved (or rejected or deferred).
>
> Note: the "BDFL-delegate" role is renamed to "PEP delegate".
> """
>
> Discussion:
>
> https://discuss.python.org/t/pep-8015-organization-of-the-python-community/193
> and
>
> https://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-committers/2018-October/006250.html
>
>
> --
>
> See also:
>
> PEP 8000: Python Language Governance Proposal Overview
> https://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-8000/
>
> PEP 8002: Open Source Governance Survey
> https://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-8002/
>
> Victor
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