On 2/8/06, Alex Martelli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 2/7/06, Fredrik Lundh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>    ...
> > what other reactive socket framework is there that would fit well into
> > the standard library ?  is twisted really simple enough ?
>
> Twisted is wonderful, powerful, rich, and very large.  Perhaps a small
> subset could be carefully extracted that (given suitable volunteers to
> maintain it in the future) might fit in the standard library, but [a]
> that extraction is not going to be a simple or fast job, and [b] I
> suspect that the minimum sensible subset would still be much larger
> (and richer / more powerful) than asyncore.

The subject of putting (parts of) Twisted into the standard library
comes up once every 6 months or so, at least on our mailing list. For
all that I think asyncore is worthless, I'm still against copying
Twisted into the stdlib. Or at least I'm not willing to maintain the
necessary fork, and I fear the nightmares about versioning that can
easily occur when you've got both standard library and third party
versions of a project.

But, for the record, to the people who argue not to put Twisted into
the stdlib because of its size: The parts of it that would actually be
applicable (i.e. those that obselete async* in the stdlib) are only a
few kilobytes of code. At a quick run of "wc", the parts that support
event loops, accurate timed calls, SSL, Unix sockets, TCP, UDP,
arbitrary file descriptors, processes, and threads sums up to about
5300 lines of code. asynchat and asyncore are about 1200.

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