On Wed, 28 Nov 2018 at 13:29, Steven D'Aprano <st...@pearwood.info> wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 28, 2018 at 10:43:04AM -0800, Gregory P. Smith wrote: > > > PyPI makes getting more algorithms easy. > > Can we please stop over-generalising like this? PyPI makes getting > more algorithms easy for *SOME* people. (Sorry for shouting, but you > just pressed one of my buttons.) > Is shouting necessary to begin with, though? I understand people relying on PyPI more and more can be troublesome for some and a sticking point, but if you know it's a trigger for you then waiting until you didn't feel like shouting seems like a reasonable course of action while still getting your point across. > > PyPI might as well not exist for those who cannot, for technical or > policy reasons, install addition software beyond the std lib on the > computers they use. (I hesitate to say "their computers".) > > In many school or corporate networks, installing unapproved software can > get you expelled or fired. And getting approval may be effectively > impossible, or take months of considerable effort navigating some > complex bureaucratic process. > > This is not an argument either for or against adding LZ4, I have no > opinion either way. > But it is a reminder that "just get it from PyPI" > represents an extremely privileged position that not all Python users > are capable of taking, and we shouldn't be so blase about abandoning > those who can't to future std lib improvements. > We have never really had a discussion about how we want to guide the stdlib going forward (e.g. how much does PyPI influence things, focus/theme, etc.). Maybe we should consider finally having that discussion once the governance model is chosen and before we consider adding a new module as things like people's inability to access PyPI come up pretty consistently (e.g. I know Paul Moore also brings this up regularly). -Brett
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