Since my last post on the subject I have pretty much given up on PEP 649 in
favor of what we have in 3.10alpha6 -- annotations are always stringified.
The two problems brought up by Joseph Perez in particular seem too thorny
to try and devise a solution for.

Jelle, could you explain why for your use cases PEP 649 is preferred over
PEP 563?

On Sat, Mar 27, 2021 at 7:35 AM Jelle Zijlstra <jelle.zijls...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Hi Larry, I have the same question as Guido last month. I'd really like to
> see some version of PEP 649 go into 3.10; is there anything I can do to
> help? I opened https://github.com/larryhastings/co_annotations/issues/1
> to discuss what seems to be the main problem identified in the previous
> discussion.
>
> El jue, 4 feb 2021 a las 10:59, Guido van Rossum (<gu...@python.org>)
> escribió:
>
>> Breaks are good. Looking forward to the next prototype!
>>
>> On Thu, Feb 4, 2021 at 10:45 AM Larry Hastings <la...@hastings.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> After working on it and stressing out about it for some months, I
>>> decided to take a break and scratch some other itches.  I'll return to PEP
>>> 649 soon, and I have every intention of having the PEP done and the
>>> prototype done well in advance of 3.10b1--worry not.
>>>
>>> Thanks for checking in,
>>>
>>>
>>> */arry*
>>> On 2/4/21 9:17 AM, Guido van Rossum wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Larry,
>>>
>>> Can you give us a status update for your PEP 649? I don't recall reading
>>> anything about it in the past few weeks. I am super excited about this
>>> solution to the problem (even if there are a few issues to work through)
>>> and I think it will provide better backwards compatibility than the current
>>> plan for Python 3.10 (PEP 563, from __future__ import annotations, causing
>>> all annotations to be stringified).
>>>
>>> If we don't get this into 3.10, we'd have a much more complicated
>>> transition. There are only two more alphas before 3.10b1 gets released! And
>>> we'd have to get this approved by the Steering Council, which can take a
>>> few weeks (cut them some slack, they have a big backlog). Fortunately you
>>> already have an implementation that can be landed quickly once the PEP is
>>> accepted.
>>>
>>> --
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>>>
>>
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