On Wed, Feb 9, 2022 at 4:19 AM Petr Viktorin <encu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > On 09. 02. 22 4:39, h.vetin...@gmx.com wrote: > >> Maybe a more practical approach would be to use C99 "except of > > features not supported by MSVC of Visual Studio 2019"? > > > > This could be formulated in a more neutral way by saying > > > > "C99 without the things that became optional in C11", or perhaps > > That sounds like a better wording! > > > "C11 without optional features" (at least from the POV of MSVC, > > haven't checked the other compilers/platforms for C11-compliance). > > That's an interesting idea -- what's keeping us from C11? > No one asking before, probably because we have been trying to get to C99 for so long. 😄 > In other words: the main thing keeping us from C99 is MSVC support, and > since that compiler apparently skipped C99, should we skip it as well? > If we think "C11 without optional features" is widely supported then I think that's a fine target to have. For anyone not sure what's optional in C11, I found https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C11_%28C_standard_revision%29#Optional_features . Other than atomics being discussed on Discord for mimalloc, leaving those things out seem reasonable to me. -Brett > > > >> In practice, we can try to support VS 2017, the version currently > > recommended by the devguide: > > > > That is becoming dated quickly, as Microsoft has deprecated, and is > removing, > > that version quite rapidly from their CI services (azure/GHA), i.e. mid > March, see: > > https://github.com/actions/virtual-environments/issues/4312. > > > > It's understandable in the sense that they don't want to support a third > version > > in addition to vs2022 and vs2019, but the net effect is that very few > (open source) > > projects will keep using vs2017 going forward. > > _______________________________________________ > > Python-Dev mailing list -- python-dev@python.org > > To unsubscribe send an email to python-dev-le...@python.org > > https://mail.python.org/mailman3/lists/python-dev.python.org/ > > Message archived at > https://mail.python.org/archives/list/python-dev@python.org/message/IIZ6LXK2MANUHZAMYSXDF5KPF3VIRKDJ/ > > Code of Conduct: http://python.org/psf/codeofconduct/ > _______________________________________________ > Python-Dev mailing list -- python-dev@python.org > To unsubscribe send an email to python-dev-le...@python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman3/lists/python-dev.python.org/ > Message archived at > https://mail.python.org/archives/list/python-dev@python.org/message/ERQQFXNAGANR2ND3SRDVCIQZKYTT6OBM/ > Code of Conduct: http://python.org/psf/codeofconduct/ >
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