Hello, just one more datapoint to help Phillip change his mind on the default install behavior and the monkeypatching: this is actually hurting adoption of setuptools.
example: the matplotlib folks wanted to add *optional* setuptool support, but this is impossible because simply importing setuptools has too much side-effects. So instead, they ask the setuptool users to use python -c "import setuptools; execfile('setup.py')" install That's just too bad, and much more confusing than setup.py install_egg ! Oh, and don't get me wrong, I *love* eggs. They are great for many use cases, even for a Debian user! From the "user" point of view, they definitely belong in the stdlib, the sooner, the better. They just need a little bit more polishing. Phillip, thank you a lot for making this happen :-) I feel that the hostility is undeserved. Baptiste _______________________________________________ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com