At 07:40 AM 3/25/2009 -0700, Guido van Rossum wrote:
Well, sorry, but this complex layered interdependent architecture is one of the *causes* of confusion -- apart from you nobody knows what is what exactly,
I'll pick a minor nit here... buildout, pip, and a wide variety of other tools and frameworks out there wouldn't exist if I were really the only person who knew "what's what". And I believe most of those people will be at the summit.
That having been said, the setuptools documentation definitely sucks for the casual reader or curious observer, as opposed to those who have serious itches to scratch in the area of dependencies or plugins. Combine that with the practical-but-impure choices I made in easy_install to get *something* working, and you have a recipe for the current situation.
pkg_resources, for example, is only bundled with setuptools because it couldn't go in the stdlib when it was written. easy_install, OTOH, is bundled with setuptools because *setuptools* isn't in the stdlib! (And of course, both use pkg_resources.)
So ironically, setuptools is bundled in the way that it is, precisely *because* there's no support for dependencies in the stdlib... and nicely illustrates why smaller libraries (and less bundling) is a *good* thing.
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