On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 5:11 PM, M.-A. Lemburg <m...@egenix.com> wrote: > Senthil Kumaran wrote: >> On Mon, Oct 05, 2009 at 10:43:22AM +0200, Fredrik Lundh wrote: >>> it's revews like this that makes me wonder if releasing open source is >>> a good idea: >>> no egg - worst seen ever, remove it from pypi or provide an egg >>> (jensens, 2009-10-05, 0 points) >>> >> >> Greetings effbot. :) >> As you might already know, "eggs" are not mandatory for pypi. No where >> in the documentation it mentions so. Also many good packages in pypi >> are not eggs (MaL's egenix packages for e.g) and we have known his >> dislike for that particular format too. > > I don't dislike the format itself, just the tools that are > available for using it. > > We've implemented our own bdist_egg now which doesn't use setuptools > and will start to ship eggs in addition to our prebuilt format with > the next releases. > > As time permits, we'll also write an egg installer/uninstaller > (one that does only that ;-). > >> But still, sometimes people have found eggs to be convenient.
The idea of PEP 376 we are working on is to have a unique unified standard for distributions installed in site-packages, instead of the current situation where we have many installation formats. (Distutils pre-Python 2.5, Distutils post-Python2.5, Setuptools self-contained Eggs, ..) because it makes it simple to provide APIs to query what's installed, and ways to uninstall things. That's what I would call the "Missing APIs" to make Distutils a package manager, or at least a basis for package managers. Having an egg installer/uninstaller that works with Setuptools-like self-contained eggs sounds like a package manager system on its own and yet another format. But as far as we went in the discussions for PEP 376, it seemed like a first step would be to work with a single installation format and provides all APIs for it, then to think about having other formats and ways to query them in a second move. That's why I don't think its the right time to add a bdist_egg command in Distutils, until PEP 376 is fully defined (and maybe extended to support several format). Tarek -- Tarek Ziadé | http://ziade.org | オープンソースはすごい! | 开源传万世，因有你参与 _______________________________________________ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com
