Steven D'Aprano writes: > As I see it, the two camps are divided purely on the question of how to > get increased privileges.
As I see it, the division is over what constitutes merit, and how it is created or improved. > Both sides agree that merit is a requirement, but the disagreement > is on how to prove you have such merit. I disagree vehemently with that characterization of my position (and I strongly suspect David would, too). The primary argument of the "quality" camp as I see it is that the familiarization period *creates* value, both in terms of training ("merit" for the job) and interpersonal relationships ("building community"). Thus it is a *net benefit*, not a *net cost*. AFAICS, the "quantity" camp sees it as a nearly pure loss, simply slowing down inflow of preexisting "merit" (and perhaps discouraging it entirely). > > *By definition*, a community is not diverse in the most fundamental > > sense. > > I think you're using a definition of community that doesn't appear in > any dictionary I'm aware of, nor do I understand what you mean by "most > fundamental sense" of diverse. Talking about diversity within a single > community is not an oxymoron. Where did I write "oxymoron"? The grammar was a bit awkward, but my point is simple: the root of the word "community" is *common*. Therefore it makes sense to bring in newcomers via a process which accustoms them to the commonality, of whatever degree, the community is based on. _______________________________________________ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com