On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 1:12 PM, Antoine Pitrou <solip...@pitrou.net> wrote:
> On Fri, 02 Jul 2010 12:55:56 -0400
> Steve Holden <st...@holdenweb.com> wrote:
>> Fred Drake wrote:
>> > On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 8:34 AM, Antoine Pitrou <solip...@pitrou.net> wrote:
>> >> The two sets of repositories use different conversion tools and rules.
>> >> They have nothing in common (different changeset IDs, different
>> >> metadata, different branch/clone layout).
>> >
>> > I'd love to see a more detailed description of this, including why
>> > someone new to Mercurial would choose one over the other.
>> >
>> > This information really belongs in www.python.org/dev/ rather than
>> > only in the mailing list.
>> >
>> +1
>>
>> As does a recent essay by Eli Bendersky, IMO. I believe it could lower
>> the barriers for entry into the "non-committer" class of developer. This
>> should make it easier for people to adapt Python to their own purposes
>> whether or not they want to contribute to the open source code base, but
>> also encourage people to investigate the compiler's innards.
>
> With the moratorium on language constructs and builtins (not only in
> letter until 3.3, but more generally in spirit), I don't think we should
> encourage it at all, for such contributions would surely be rejected.
>
> Rather than fancy syntax propositions or wild semantic
> changes/enhancements (such as have often been proposed on
> python-ideas), what we need is humbler but more useful work on stdlib
> bugs and improvements, as well as documentation and tutorials.
>
> (what's more, those two kinds of contributions are likely to attract
> two different kinds of people, which means that people whose syntax
> patches get refused won't necessarily start contributing stdlib or
> documentation patches...)
>
> Regards
>
> Antoine.

I completely and wholeheartedly agree with Antoine. I'm hoping the
sprints thing will help with this - the stuff outside of the "deep
core" needs a lot more help and TLC.

jesse
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