On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 05:25, C. Titus Brown <c...@msu.edu> wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 05:22:45AM +0200, Eli Bendersky wrote:
>> On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 05:07, R. David Murray <rdmur...@bitdance.com> wrote:
>> > I don't like any of the suggested wordings. ?I have no problem with
>> > us recommending other modules, but most of the Python libraries are
>> > perfectly functional (not "leaky" or some other pejorative), they just
>> > aren't as capable as the wiz-bang new stuff that's available on PyPI.
>> >
>>
>>  +1 to David's comment, and -0 on the proposal as a whole.
>>
>> The suggested wordings are simply offensive to those modules & their
>> maintainers specifically, and to Python generally.
>>
>> Personally, I think an intelligent user should realize that a
>> language's standard library won't provide all the latest and shiniest
>> gadgets. Rather, it will focus on providing stable tools that have
>> withstood the test of time and can serve as a basis for building more
>> advanced tools. That intelligent user should also be aware of PyPI
>> (and the main Python page makes it prominent enough), so I see no
>> reason explicitly pointing to it in the documentation of several
>> modules.
>
> I see the point, but as a reasonably knowledgeable Python programmer
> (intelligent? who knows...) I regularly discover nifty new modules
> that "replace" stdlib modules.  It'd be nice to have pointers in the
> docs, although that runs the risk of having the pointers grow stale,
> too.
>

Exactly. It's not the job of the core developers to keep track of the
latest and greatest gadgets and to diligently update the docs when
something new comes out. Note that "the latest and coolest" changes
frequently, so this may mean different "recommendations" between 3.x.y
and 3.x.y+1, which is even more confusing.

Wasn't a PyPI recommendation / voting system discussed a while ago?
*That* would be much more appropriate than officially endorsing
specific modules by pointing to them in the standard documentation.

Eli
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