On Sat, 23 Aug 2014, Marko Rauhamaa wrote:

"Stephen J. Turnbull" <step...@xemacs.org>:

Just read as bytes and decode piecewise in one way or another. For
Oleg's HTML case, there's a well-understood structure that can be used
to determine retry points

HTML and XML are interesting examples since their encoding is initially
unknown:

 <?xml version="1.0"?>
                     ^
                     +--- Now I know it is UTF-8

 <?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-16"?>
                                     ^
                                     +--- Now I know it was UTF-16
                                          all along!

Then we have:


 HTTP/1.1 200 OK
 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1

 <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN">
 <html>
 <head>
 <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-16">

See how deep you have to parse the TCP stream before you realize the
content encoding is UTF-16.

For HTML it's not quite so bad.  According to the HTML 4 standard:

http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/charset.html

The Content-Type header takes precedence over a <meta> element. I thought I read once that the reason was to allow proxy servers to transcode documents but I don't have a cite for that. Also, the <meta> element "must only be used when the character encoding is organized such that ASCII-valued bytes stand for ASCII characters" so the initial UTF-16 example wouldn't be conformant in HTML.

In HTML 5 it allows non-ASCII-compatible encodings as long as U+FEFF (byte order mark) is used:

http://www.w3.org/TR/html-markup/syntax.html#encoding-declaration

Not sure about XML.

Of course this whole area is a bit of an "arms race" between programmers competing to get away with being as sloppy as possible and other programmers who have to deal with their mess.

Isaac Morland                   CSCF Web Guru
DC 2554C, x36650                WWW Software Specialist
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