I tried a Makefile based build of python (+ some module) in the past for 
Android (and macos):

   https://bitbucket.org/cavallo71/android

There was no particular problem in dropping autoconfigure+setup.py in the process: the only real problem was the pgen must be compiled on the host machine (but that could have changed since).

In general python was a plain compile and link stuff with not much magic involved and that is (very) good in my opinion: magic detection tends to fail, autoconfigure need to "execute" stuff to detect things (reason why is quite useless in cross-compile mode) etc.

I would've tried also cmake and qmake builds as well, but simply I didn't have 
time to spend on it.

I hope this helps,
Antonio



Zachary Ware wrote:
On Saturday, January 24, 2015, Brett Cannon <br...@python.org 
<mailto:br...@python.org>> wrote:

    On Fri Jan 23 2015 at 5:45:28 PM Gregory P. Smith <g...@krypto.org 
<javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','g...@krypto.org');>> wrote:

        On Fri Jan 23 2015 at 11:20:02 AM M.-A. Lemburg <m...@egenix.com 
<javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','m...@egenix.com');>> wrote:

            On 23.01.2015 19:48, Matthias Klose wrote:
             > On 01/23/2015 06:30 PM, Cyd Haselton wrote:
             >> Related to my earlier question regarding building Python on 
Android
             >> and an undefined reference to dlopen error...I have the 
following
             >> question:  Is it possible to build and install Python without 
having
             >> to build and install...or use...distutils?
             >>
             >> Some background:
             >> I can build the python interpreter on my device, and I can 
build a
             >> bunch of modules.  The problem appears when make reaches the 
part
             >> where setup.py is used to build and import 
modules...specifically when
             >> setup.py attempts to import distutils.core.
             >
             > you can do this using Setup.local. This works for me building 
additional
             > extensions as builtins.  It might require some tweaking to build 
everything.

            You may want to have a look at the Setup files we're using
            in eGenix PyRun, which uses them to force static builds of the
            various built-in extensions.

            Look for these files:

            PyRun/Runtime/Setup.PyRun-2.7
            PyRun/Runtime/Setup.PyRun-3.4

            in the source archives:

            http://www.egenix.com/__products/python/PyRun/ 
<http://www.egenix.com/products/python/PyRun/>

             > Otoh, I would like to get rid off the setup.py altogether (/me 
ducks ...).

            Why ? It's great for finding stuff on your system and configuring
            everything without user intervention (well, most of the time :-)).


        Because our setup.py is a nightmare of arbitrary code run in a linear 
fashion with ad-hoc checks for things that are
        unlike how any other project on the planet determines what is available on your 
system.  It may have seemed "great" when
        it was created in 2001.  It really shows its age now.

        It defeats build parallelism and dependency declaration.
        It also prevents cross compilation.

        Building an interpreter with a limited standard library on your build 
host so that you can run said interpreter to have
        it drive the remainder of your build is way more self hosting that we 
rightfully need to be for CPython.


    So are you suggesting to add the build rules to configure and the Makefile 
-- and Windows build file -- in order to drop
    setup.py?


Windows already doesn't use setup.py. There are a lot more modules built-in on 
Windows, and others have their own project files;
distutils isn't used at all.


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