Hi, Is there anything new about Solaris or OpenIndiana since September? Right now, it seems like the cea-indiana-x86 buildbot slave is offline since longer than 54 days.
Oracle decided to stop Solaris 12 development: https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2017/01/oracle-sort-of-confirms-demise-of-solaris-12-effort/ I'm not opposed to help if someone provides patches to fix Solaris issues, but it seems like no one wants to do this job. So I suggest to drop official Solaris support, but I don't propose to remove the C code specific to Solaris. In practice, I suggest to remove Solaris and OpenIndiana buildbots since they are broken for months and are more annoying than useful. Victor 2016-09-27 0:54 GMT+02:00 Brett Cannon <br...@python.org>: > > > On Mon, 26 Sep 2016 at 15:38 Guido van Rossum <gu...@python.org> wrote: >> >> Thanks for the reality check Trent! I think if enough people with core >> committer bits want to keep supporting Solaris / Illumos / OpenIndiana >> / other variants that's fine, but I don't think that just having some >> VMs to test on is enough -- we also need people who can fix problems >> if those buildbots start failing, and that requires pretty specialized >> knowledge. Plus of course we won't know if fixing it for OpenIndiana >> will also fix it for Solaris 11 Express or for other Illumos forks. >> (For Linux it's easier to assess these things because so many people >> in open source use Linux and its many forks.) > > > The official requirement to support a platform is a stable buildbot and a > core dev to keep the support up: > https://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0011/#supporting-platforms. Victor has > asked that the OpenIndiana buildbot be removed from the stable pool as it > consistently throws MemoryError which means its support is not improving. If > Trent is willing to maintain a buildbot in a Joyent VM that at least takes > care of that part, but it still requires Jesus to volunteer to keep the > support up if it's going to be supported for free. Otherwise Joyent could > consider contracting with one of the various core devs who happen to be > consultants to help maintain the support. > > At minimum, though, a new buildbot could go into the unstable pool so > illumos devs can keep an eye on when things break to try and get > platform-independent changes upstreamed that happen to help illumos (e.g. no > #ifdef changes specific to illumos, but if something just needed to be made > more robust and it happens to help illumos that's typically fine). > >> >> >> On Mon, Sep 26, 2016 at 3:32 PM, Trent Mick <tre...@gmail.com> wrote: >> > I work for Joyent (joyent.com) now, which employs a number of devs that >> > work >> > on illumos (illumos.org). We also provide cloud infrastructure. Would it >> > help if we offered one or more instances (VMs) on which to run buildbot >> > slaves (and on which volunteers for bug fixing could hack)? I know a >> > lot of >> > people in the illumos community would be quite sad to have it dropped as >> > a >> > core Python plat. >> > >> > Guido, >> > Yes you are correct that Oracle owns the Solaris brand. >> > >> > tl;dr history if you care: >> > - sunos -> Solaris >> > - Sun open sources Solaris, called OpenSolaris (2005) >> > - Oracle acquires Sun and closes Solaris (Aug 2010). Shortly after, the >> > community forks OpenSolaris and calls it illumos (Sep 2010) >> > - OpenIndiana is a distro of illumos (somewhat similar to how Ubuntu is >> > a >> > distro of Linux). Other distros are SmartOS (the one Joyent works on), >> > and >> > OmniOS. >> > - Oracle continues work on Solaris, releasing "Solaris 11 Express". >> > >> > I've no real numbers of usage of illumos vs Solaris 11 vs others. >> > >> > Cheers, >> > Trent >> > >> > p.s. I hear that Jesus is also in contact with some of the illumos-devs >> > on >> > IRC (and perhaps email). I hope we can help there. >> >> >> >> -- >> --Guido van Rossum (python.org/~guido) >> _______________________________________________ >> Python-Dev mailing list >> Python-Dev@python.org >> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev >> Unsubscribe: >> https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/brett%40python.org > > > _______________________________________________ > Python-Dev mailing list > Python-Dev@python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev > Unsubscribe: > https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/victor.stinner%40gmail.com > _______________________________________________ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com
