2017-06-12 15:28 GMT+02:00 INADA Naoki <songofaca...@gmail.com>: >> I like using LANG=C to display a manual page in english. > > Me too. But we can use LC_CTYPE=C.UTF-8 with LANG=C.
My point is that LANG=C is easy to remember and "it just works". > And LC_CTYPE=C.UTF-8 is much easier (and ideal) than > PYTHONLOCALECOERCIONWARNING=0. I just propose to remove the warning, so LANG=C would "just works" as well with Python 3.7. >> Technically, I know that it's wrong, but it works. I don't see the point of >> the >> warning. I'm able to render my hello world with the wrong locale :-) >> If you want to use C.utf-8, fine, just do it, but don't bug me with >> locales please :-) > > Do you mean which? > > b) don't show warning when locale is coerced. Always remove the warning. >> I consider that I understand well locales and encodings. But now try >> to imagine someone who don't know anything about programming and >> starts learning a new language, Python, and see this warning... > > Locale coercion is for them. Currently (Python 3.6), they will see > UnicodeEncodeError. > This warning is much helpful than UnicodeEncodeError, because > it teaches how to configure UTF-8 locale. Sorry, I don't understand. Currently, Python 3.7 "just works": it uses UTF-8 when the locale is C and so we don't get any UnicodeError anymore. Why would user need to be annoyed by a warning while Python just do the "right thing" for them? > And I fear about overriding locale silently. The thing is nobody understand locales :-) No need to annoy users about locales. Just fix them silently ;-) > But there may be someone who prefer strict, > ascii-only C locale. This warning tells how to disable coercion for them. Users who understand locales don't need such warning. They know how to read a documentation and how to use properly locales :-) > -1 for disable coercion by default: It's too unhelpful for beginners. Are you proposing to reject the PEP that you approved? Now I'm confused. Victor _______________________________________________ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com